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Sir David Amess Now An Islamic Terrorist Incident
i didn't want to put this on the other post as it may have been lost in the 153 answers.
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\\The fatal stabbing of Conservative MP Sir David Amess has been declared a terrorist incident, Metropolitan Police have confirmed.//
\\The early investigation has revealed “a potential motivation linked to Islamist extremism”, the force said.
A 25-year-old man arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder is in custody at an Essex police station.
Official sources told the PA news agency the man is believed to be a British national with Somali heritage//
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\\The fatal stabbing of Conservative MP Sir David Amess has been declared a terrorist incident, Metropolitan Police have confirmed.//
\\The early investigation has revealed “a potential motivation linked to Islamist extremism”, the force said.
A 25-year-old man arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder is in custody at an Essex police station.
Official sources told the PA news agency the man is believed to be a British national with Somali heritage//
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I could feel your glee when you broadened ‘a terrorist incident’ to an ‘Islamic Terrorist incident’.
The Police are treating it as terrorism. The attacker’s Somali, so almost certainly is a muslim. But the motive has not yet been revealed.
My guess would be terrorism inextricably linked with his religion
I could feel your glee when you broadened ‘a terrorist incident’ to an ‘Islamic Terrorist incident’.
The Police are treating it as terrorism. The attacker’s Somali, so almost certainly is a muslim. But the motive has not yet been revealed.
My guess would be terrorism inextricably linked with his religion
Tora - // You'll have Andy on here in a minute telling us it's nowt to do with TROP. //
No, you won't.
I have never said that terrorism is nothing to do with Islam.
What I have said is that psychopaths use the peg of Islam, or more accurately, their twisted interpretation of it, to hang their murderous behaviour on.
To suggest that Islam and terrorism are not connected would be naive.
But to suggest that Islam entirely justifies terrorism would be naive as well.
No, you won't.
I have never said that terrorism is nothing to do with Islam.
What I have said is that psychopaths use the peg of Islam, or more accurately, their twisted interpretation of it, to hang their murderous behaviour on.
To suggest that Islam and terrorism are not connected would be naive.
But to suggest that Islam entirely justifies terrorism would be naive as well.
andy-hughes
Sitckybottle - // My guess would be terrorism inextricably linked with his religion. //
My suggestion would be that terrorism and religion are inextricably linked in this man's mind, but since his mind is psychotic, we can hardly hold him up as a typical Muslim, can we.
I had no idea you had made a clinical diagnosis of him ?
Strange they did not mention your psychiatric appraisal of him in the news items ?
Sitckybottle - // My guess would be terrorism inextricably linked with his religion. //
My suggestion would be that terrorism and religion are inextricably linked in this man's mind, but since his mind is psychotic, we can hardly hold him up as a typical Muslim, can we.
I had no idea you had made a clinical diagnosis of him ?
Strange they did not mention your psychiatric appraisal of him in the news items ?
andy, there does seem to be a lot of them erm thousands creating havoc around the world, whole groups armies if you like, are they all deluded and psycho, i have mentioned this is sis boko haram taliban, are they all mad, or it it your version of whats considered normal human behavour, no..this is a concerted effort to put islam and its backward thinking ways forward.
Stickybottle - // I had no idea you had made a clinical diagnosis of him ?
Strange they did not mention your psychiatric appraisal of him in the news items ? //
Obviously I do not, but I wuld suggest that stabbing a complete stranger indicates the prescence of psychosis, or possibly a similar mental aberation.
I have no idea, I am not a psychiatrist, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that murdering someone you don't know for what may welll turn out to be perceived by the murderer as religious reasons, is not the action of a balanced mind.
Strange they did not mention your psychiatric appraisal of him in the news items ? //
Obviously I do not, but I wuld suggest that stabbing a complete stranger indicates the prescence of psychosis, or possibly a similar mental aberation.
I have no idea, I am not a psychiatrist, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that murdering someone you don't know for what may welll turn out to be perceived by the murderer as religious reasons, is not the action of a balanced mind.
fender - // andy, there does seem to be a lot of them erm thousands creating havoc around the world, whole groups armies if you like, are they all deluded and psycho ... //
'Deluded' - absolutely. I think we can agree that interpreting any religious text as indicating that non-believers should be destroyed is not normal behaviour.
I know that some on here will trot out the age-old argument that the Koran and Islamic teaching does justify murder of non-beievers, but if that were true, then we would find millions of devout Muslims slaughtering Westerners until there were none left.
Since, and this is clearly a fact, it is a tiny minority of twisted minds that choose to see their teachings this way, it cannot be the standard and understood interpetation of the Islamc faith.
You can find people who will twist anything to justify their actions, that's human nature, but that does not automatically mean that their version of reality is the right one.
'Psycho' - possibly, obviously we have no way of knowing.
// i have mentioned this is sis boko haram taliban, are they all mad, or it it your version of whats considered normal human behavour, no..this is a concerted effort to put islam and its backward thinking ways forward. //
Of course it is not normal behaviour, and yes it is a concerted effort to put an interpretation of Islam, and that is a seriously important distinction, forward.
As I mentioned above - if every Muslim regarded murdering non-believers as the right and proper exercise of their faith, I would not be sitting here typing this, and you would not be sitting there reading it.
'Deluded' - absolutely. I think we can agree that interpreting any religious text as indicating that non-believers should be destroyed is not normal behaviour.
I know that some on here will trot out the age-old argument that the Koran and Islamic teaching does justify murder of non-beievers, but if that were true, then we would find millions of devout Muslims slaughtering Westerners until there were none left.
Since, and this is clearly a fact, it is a tiny minority of twisted minds that choose to see their teachings this way, it cannot be the standard and understood interpetation of the Islamc faith.
You can find people who will twist anything to justify their actions, that's human nature, but that does not automatically mean that their version of reality is the right one.
'Psycho' - possibly, obviously we have no way of knowing.
// i have mentioned this is sis boko haram taliban, are they all mad, or it it your version of whats considered normal human behavour, no..this is a concerted effort to put islam and its backward thinking ways forward. //
Of course it is not normal behaviour, and yes it is a concerted effort to put an interpretation of Islam, and that is a seriously important distinction, forward.
As I mentioned above - if every Muslim regarded murdering non-believers as the right and proper exercise of their faith, I would not be sitting here typing this, and you would not be sitting there reading it.
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