Stanley Johnson

[grumpy01]

MP Caroline Noakes has accused him of touching her inappropriately at the Conservative Party conference in 2003.Dreadful man but why wait until now? https://news.sky.com/story/amp/stanley-johnson-accused-of-inappropriately-touching-senior-conservative-mp-12469482

[naomi24]

I've no idea who that's addressed to, apg, but I've said none of it. You must be talking to someone else now so I'll leave you to it.

[AuntPG]

I would if I were you Naomi -you've well and truly backed yourself into a corner -I'd go and have a nice cup of tea if I were you.

[naomi24]

How so? You are misquoting me - I'm putting you straight. Yes, I know - according to you no one puts you straight - but they do. Frequently.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Intelligent women do not become 'traumatised' (as Anneasquith would have it) by a smack on the bottom. Miffed at the time yes - but 20 years on? I think not. This woman is muck-raking. //

There we are then - judged and sentenced - her responses decided by you on the basis that a level of intelligence is directly proportional to the ability to deal with unwanted attention - the brighter you are, the more easily you can dismiss it.

I am on occasion shamed by my gender for the attitudes they display on here - I am unsurprised that some ladies on here express dismay at your unfeeling and judgmental attitudes.

[AuntPG]

naomi, you really do need to go have that cup of tea.

[anneasquith]

Is the issue here, that the accused is a Johnson. I believe so. Now that is very very sad .

[naomi24]

AH, //There we are then - judged and sentenced//

Just like Stanley then.

[Peter Pedant]

// but why wait until now?//

1910 - joke from me ou pa
Boy beating up another younger boy in the street
Passerby intervenes and says - how now etc
Boy explains - last year he called me an ignoramus and I have only just found out what it means....

NHS by the way - you have to discuss behaviour and safety in real time and not bank them up or keep a little black book.....

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, //There we are then - judged and sentenced//

Just like Stanley then. //

Judging Mr Johnson is not right - judging Ms Noakes is not right.

But assuming that Ms Noakes is just a silly gel who needs to put her big-girl pants on and get over it, is seriously not right - and your assumption that judging Mr Johnson makes your view defensible is not right either.

Not doing very well on here, are you.

[naomi24]

anneasquith, //Is the issue here, that the accused is a Johnson. I believe so. Now that is very very sad . //

Why are you asking the question if you think you already know the answer? Bear in mind you only THINK you know the answer. Personally, until such time that historical allegations of this nature are proven to be accurate I would err on the side of caution and give any man the benefit of the doubt. Too many reputations have been ruined by this sort of thing.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // I would err on the side of caution and give any man the benefit of the doubt. //

Accusing Ms Noakes of 'muckraking' hardly fits the notion of 'erring on the side of caution'!!!!

[naomi24]

AH, I'm doing rather better than you. Who said she is // just a silly gel who needs to put her big-girl pants on and get over it,//?

Not me.

[AuntPG]

Naomi you are now showing yourself up by doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing to you (misquoting).

[naomi24]

Who have I misquoted, apg?

[AuntPG]

....one lump or two Naomi :-)

[Peter Pedant]

//AH, //There we are then - judged and sentenced////
o god why do the usual ignorami miss a chance to quote the NT - stanley johnson that is!

“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged.”

Μὴ κρίνετε, ἵνα μὴ κριθῆτε
ἐν ᾧ γὰρ κρίματι κρίνετε κριθήσεσθε, καὶ ἐν ᾧ μέτρῳ μετρεῖτε μετρηθήσεται ὑμῖν.

but ya kinda knew I was gonna write that didntcha?

krinete differs by one syllable from krithete
and so is internal evidence that someone DID say it 2000 y ago
( = balanced pericope)
and so then the question arises who said it, and why did the recorder/penman think it worth recording?

sozza - AB readers braynes start exploding like in a scene from "Scanners" - yeah like they were protesting outside the 'pule's wimmin's hospital when a taxi....

[naomi24]

I've no idea how many lumps you have, apg.

[Peter Pedant]

far too early sozza dubbl sozza for this sortta god squad - ju[-ju stuff

[AuntPG]

naomi -none -I'm sweet enough apparently

[Peter Pedant]

oh, ay go to some lengths not to misquote the bible
but that is only me of course