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so what will te powers on both sides of calais do now, probably nothing and some will say
tough luck to dead, you took a dangerous chance and died.
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tough luck to dead, you took a dangerous chance and died.
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//Then we must count our blessings that we have never been in a situation where a potentially lethal boat ride appears more attractive than our current situation.//
Then that's another reason why they are not like me, Andy. Their current (i.e. pre-embarkation) situation is that they are in an EU country, free from danger and persecution. They have the facilities available to them to formally apply for asylum (and indeed some of them may have done so and been refused). But they don't like it there; they'd prefer to be here. That is not a basis on which to claim asylum as a refugee. They are not desperate, they are determined, which is an entirely different thing.
Then that's another reason why they are not like me, Andy. Their current (i.e. pre-embarkation) situation is that they are in an EU country, free from danger and persecution. They have the facilities available to them to formally apply for asylum (and indeed some of them may have done so and been refused). But they don't like it there; they'd prefer to be here. That is not a basis on which to claim asylum as a refugee. They are not desperate, they are determined, which is an entirely different thing.
burlyshirley
A new born baby giraffe survived a lion attack and collapsed exhausted into a river and died, as reported in Daily Mail. I care more about this poor baby than I do about illegals (many of them violent thugs) constantly streaming into my country to take advantage of our soft touch ! Not bothered what anybody thinks about this either ...
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Many of them children. Horrendous attitude imo, burlyshirley.
4 people arrested...Is it possible they actually know who some of the traffickers are?
A new born baby giraffe survived a lion attack and collapsed exhausted into a river and died, as reported in Daily Mail. I care more about this poor baby than I do about illegals (many of them violent thugs) constantly streaming into my country to take advantage of our soft touch ! Not bothered what anybody thinks about this either ...
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Many of them children. Horrendous attitude imo, burlyshirley.
4 people arrested...Is it possible they actually know who some of the traffickers are?
//Is it possible they actually know who some of the traffickers are?//
Are you having a giraffe? The French, Germans, Italians and Spanish have been "advising" and organising them for years. They travel by rail free of charge across the EUSSR with the conivence of the "officials" whilst dingies, motors, and kit miraculously appear on the designated beach. FRog plod rock up in case they fall over and hurt themselves whilst running for the launch ... then help them into the boat.
Are you having a giraffe? The French, Germans, Italians and Spanish have been "advising" and organising them for years. They travel by rail free of charge across the EUSSR with the conivence of the "officials" whilst dingies, motors, and kit miraculously appear on the designated beach. FRog plod rock up in case they fall over and hurt themselves whilst running for the launch ... then help them into the boat.
Some might say that if they didn't destroy their papers they might be able to get a Ryanair flight and claim asylum when they land.
It's not about asylum though, is it? It's a lust for freebies and a nice life.
I'm content that I don't have to wail or gnash teeth at the inhumanity of it all like politicians and other notables have to for the cameras.
Make of that what you will.
It's not about asylum though, is it? It's a lust for freebies and a nice life.
I'm content that I don't have to wail or gnash teeth at the inhumanity of it all like politicians and other notables have to for the cameras.
Make of that what you will.
“ Some might say that if they didn't destroy their papers they might be able to get a Ryanair flight and claim asylum when they land. ”
Some might, but they’d be talking through their collective hats. Even the flights to Minsk with free visas has been clamped down on belatedly. Complaining that it’s not about “asylum” is missing the point: people flee poor lives or dangerous ones for a better life. It was ever thus.
Some might, but they’d be talking through their collective hats. Even the flights to Minsk with free visas has been clamped down on belatedly. Complaining that it’s not about “asylum” is missing the point: people flee poor lives or dangerous ones for a better life. It was ever thus.
and maybe they destroy there documents because they have criminal records and obviously so you don't know where they are from, again thwarting the legal system, they are basically criminal chancers.
but still they are allowed to stay even though thye have broken many laws...it's not fair and it's certainly not justice to the uk tax payer.
but still they are allowed to stay even though thye have broken many laws...it's not fair and it's certainly not justice to the uk tax payer.
Even for Ryanair it would be a stretch to include Minsk in a list of French airports.
20 flights a day to the UK and none, repeat none, charging thousands to get here.
£22 for a flight or 5 - 10 thousand for a potential death sentence.
There's something rotten in the state of Denmark (also not in France)
20 flights a day to the UK and none, repeat none, charging thousands to get here.
£22 for a flight or 5 - 10 thousand for a potential death sentence.
There's something rotten in the state of Denmark (also not in France)
On Channel 4 news tonight Krishnan Guru Murthy, pulling his 'deeply concerned' face, described these people as "scared and desperate". In what way exactly were they desperate? They had made it to France; they were safe and free to claim asylum there.
As others have said - where the hell do they get all these boats and lifejackets from?
As others have said - where the hell do they get all these boats and lifejackets from?
Won’t make any difference.
People are desperate to get to the UK.
Trying to “put them off” coming here is not going to work.
Streets paved at all never mind with gold will do.
In fact, scrub the paving ..
As for the “cheap flights “ (??!!)
Priti Patel actually claimed that Brexit would make “sending people back” easier. I hadn’t realised she was that big an idiot.
People are desperate to get to the UK.
Trying to “put them off” coming here is not going to work.
Streets paved at all never mind with gold will do.
In fact, scrub the paving ..
As for the “cheap flights “ (??!!)
Priti Patel actually claimed that Brexit would make “sending people back” easier. I hadn’t realised she was that big an idiot.
17:53 Wed 24th Nov 2021
Best answer from NJ, in my opinion.
Of course it's sad to lose lives, but they were not fleeing. They were safe as soon as they were in the EU. They were coming to the UK for economic reasons and because they are told the UK is a soft touch. They chose to come and willing to take risks, and maybe risked their children's lives. I don't have much sympathy, except for the children.
Best answer from NJ, in my opinion.
Of course it's sad to lose lives, but they were not fleeing. They were safe as soon as they were in the EU. They were coming to the UK for economic reasons and because they are told the UK is a soft touch. They chose to come and willing to take risks, and maybe risked their children's lives. I don't have much sympathy, except for the children.
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