27 Migrants Drown

[fender62]

so what will te powers on both sides of calais do now, probably nothing and some will say
tough luck to dead, you took a dangerous chance and died.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10238171/French-police-watch-40-migrants-launch-dinghies-UK-day-vowing-step-patrols.html

[ichkeria]

“ They had made it to France; they were safe and free to claim asylum there”

Many don’t feel safe in France. The French authorities don’t want them there.
Many have family here.
I’m not saying that is right, but that is the way it is

[pat2604]

Goodgoalie. From what I can gather the boats are being bought in by the traffickers from the Netherlands and Belgium who are buying them in from China. Surely this could easily be stopped!

[emmie]

i am sad at any loss of life in this way, however they must have known the risks and chosen to take them anyway. As others have said there are plenty of places they could settle on the way, not just France. If they can spare 3,000 pounds each, the figure quoted on the news then where do they get the money from, as most seem to be from poor countries. The traffickers are providing them with the boats and presumably the vests that most have, then surely we should be stopping the traffickers. Perhaps it's easier said than done.
The French are not helping matters, standing around waiting for them to depart, not doing enough to stop them from entering what is the most dangerous shipping lanes in the world.
The fact is the RNLI are ferrying them en masse across the waters now, i watched one episode of "Saving Lives at Sea", about the work the RNLI do and they had saved one boatload of migrants, children and adults crammed into a tiny dinghy, and brought them ashore. The abuse from bystanders on the British shores was not surprising.
I have supported the RNLI for years, but i won't be doing so again, if they are just a ferry service for migrants coming to the UK.
I think that Priti Patel should go and be replaced with someone with some real clout. As said i am sorry for loss of life, but this can't be allowed to continue.

[Deskdiary]

I understand there were 5 women and 1 child on that boat...or in other words there were 21 men, 21 men who would have disappeared into the cash-in-hand economy and/or become state dependent.

I know I'm going to get mullered for this, but the only thought that ran through my head when I heard of the sinking was 'Meh'.

[Bobbisox1]

The boat was purchased in Germany and one of the traffickers has a German passport, I’m incensed that the French interior minister has /is saying the UK is handling the migrant situation badly , we need to see some evidence of those who ‘make it’ here ,being sent straight back , it’s been established that some were Iraqi , well if slimy Blair hadn’t dipped his fingers into that country or opened borders to all and sundry in 2004, this country of ours might just not looked so attractive !

[emmie]

agree Bobbi, Blair has a lot to answer to.

[Bobbisox1]

He should have stood trial for war crimes Emmie

[emmie]

we are in the process or have paid £54 million to the French to what purpose. I can't see that money being used for it's purpose, they are just laughing at us fools, for taking them in in the first place. They should all be repatriated out of UK and the Royal Navy should be asked to patrol the lanes of the Channel and if there are boats coming to direct, take them back to French shores. None of this will happen and we will be swamped as per usual, most will end up staying.

[Bobbisox1]

My thoughts are with our own people who live in the South here, their towns and cities must be now crawling with these migrants and if they have no money then they’ll steal to survive , we owe them ( our own)a duty of care

[emmie]

yes Bobbi, they like the Afghan migrants have headed this way by the looks of it.

[Bobbisox1]

Too many bleeding hearts here Emmie, most on TV just now as well

[emmie]

indeed there are, where are their bleeding hearts when it comes to rough sleepers of our own.

[dannyk13]

Is this a good idea?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-emmanuel-macron-france-channel-president-b968153.html

[naomi24]

Pointless, danny. Who would trust the French to keep their side of the bargain? They're already standing and watching the boats leave French shores - and why wouldn't they? The more coming here the fewer they have to deal with.

[New Judge]

//Is this a good idea?//

No it isn't. If the French were sincere in their concern the simplest way to stop the crossings would be for them to accept the immediate return of every person intercepted in the Channel. But they won't because they don't want them any more than we do. To blame us is simply ludicrous.

[davebro]

The French don't want joint patrols in France cos the British contingent would more effectively find & stop the migrants on the beaches giving the lie to French claims that they were doing their best. Damn savages!

[davebro]

they could deploy drones to monitor the beaches & intercept & destroy boats they saw being prepared for launch.

[naomi24]

^That is an excellent idea.

[ichkeria]

"I know I'm going to get mullered for this, but the only thought that ran through my head when I heard of the sinking was 'Meh'. "

Best answer in waiting I would have thought given the OP.
I am more likely to get "mullered" (any relation to "mullahed"?) for suggesting that in fact the streets of the south are far from "crawling" with migrants. That this is a humanitarian crisis primarily and that the UK, France and the EU should be working together to re-establish the safe routes for migrants/asylum seekers. Apart from anything else there'd be more chance of controlling it at source rather than closing our eyes to the reality of migration, which has always happened, and then sounding shocked when disasters like this happen. Or simply the channel fills with dinghies.

[naomi24]

//That this is a humanitarian crisis primarily and that the UK, France and the EU should be working together to re-establish the safe routes for migrants/asylum seekers.//

Safe routes to where? These people are already in a safe place. And I don't see it as a 'humanitarian crisis' either. Those attempting to come here are not fleeing for their lives - they're economic migrants.