I Don't Even Know Where To Start With This!

[Deskdiary]

The most bizarre banner I think I've ever seen

"Transgender father-of-two, 47, awaiting gender reassignment surgery is sent to male prison after being exposed as predatory paedophile who targeted girls as young as six and took upskirt photo of seven-year-old"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10675553/Transgender-father-two-47-awaiting-gender-reassignment-surgery-jailed-three-years.html

It's quite clear this person is a man. Will the achingly right on AB, like Jim and SP (and the Ab Editor) refer to him, and it's clearly a him, as him, or will they get so wrapped up in ignoring the obvious they'll refer to him as her?

[Peter Pedant]

yikes, do we have to discuss this ?

what about mega death in Ukraine
or rising prices everywhere
or taxes going up
or kids not seeming to learn anything at skool? like a lot of them dont go thats why!

"it's" not a question I am going to lose sleep over !

[Atheist]

DD; you've got an unnatural obsession with gender issues. Maybe you should seek help.

[Deskdiary]

You may be right Atheist.

The alternative view is that it's nuts to accept the person is a "her" or a "she", but some will expect me to.

I can't.

[youngmafbog]

//you've got an unnatural obsession with gender issues. Maybe you should seek help.//

Ah, the typical cancel culture answer. You are so wonderful you consider others should seek help because they dont have your right-on view.

disgusting.

[tonyav]

They said she poked genitals through a letter box when they knocked at her door
The 47-year-old is convicted of three charges of sexual assault, one of exposure

How can a 'she' poke her genitals through a letter box ?

Sounds more like a perverted it to me.

[youngmafbog]

DD, you are 100% correct.

[Atheist]

DD; Does it really matter what other people expect you to use as a term of address to other human beings? Why is it important to you?
I have never addressed someone as 'Sir' (apart from teachers at school), because it felt wrong that I should subordinate myself to another human being. Do you have the same feeling about this person? Why can't you refer to this person as a sexual predator, or a sinner, or whatever? Why do you have to bring it all back to pronouns?

[tonyav]

There is a poster that 'should seek help' and it isn't you DD.

[Deskdiary]

Atheist, rather than being the end of a bell, why not try addressing the point?

[Atheist]

DD the OP is all about pronouns. That's what I have addressed.

[youngmafbog]

He is a him. End of

[Atheist]

YMB; Are you that concerned about pronouns? Why are you apparently so concerned that you feel the need to be aggressive towards people?

[Deskdiary]

Ok Atheist at 10.35, this woman upskirted a 7 year old girl.

If you can’t see that that’s nuts, I suggest you keep away from children.

[youngmafbog]

Aggressive?

No, I am sick of people like you.

[New Judge]

//Does it really matter what other people expect you to use as a term of address to other human beings?//

Yes it does. To comply with those expectations people are being asked to accept fiction as fact, to believe that opinion trumps biology. When they decline to do so they are subject to abuse.
//I have never addressed someone as 'Sir' (apart from teachers at school), because it felt wrong that I should subordinate myself to another human being. Do you have the same feeling about this person? //

That's a false analogy. Whether you refer to someone as "Sir" or "Mate" is determined by opinion and manners. Whether you refer to someone as "he" or "she" is determined by fact.

A man can call himself a woman or a horse, it doesn't matter. What does matter is when people are castigated for refusing to praise the King's New Clothes.

[ladybirder]

What a disgusting person. I hope HE is not getting the NHS to pay for his op. He clearly fancies girls so why does he want to become a woman? No prizes for guessing.

[Atheist]

You're muddling up the issue of people who use the 'wrong' pronoun with that of people who break the law, and break your (and my) sense of moral decency. Ask a question and expect an answer to that question; don't get in a strop about someone who doesn't follow your tangential invitation to join a 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' club.

[tonyav]

LOL, some of the funniest back pedaling I have seen.