How Many More Of These ….

[ichkeria]

Before Russia is declared a terrorist state?

Vynnytsya’s “good luck” ran out this morning

Death toll in Chasiv Yar apartment bombing rises to 48.

Warning:
Distressing (even though partially airbrushed) image:

https://ibb.co/tB7Qz7C

Get rid of Putin and who’s the favourite to replace him?
Nikolai Patrushev, a man suspected by many of masterminding the Dubrovka and Volgodonsk terrorist attacks in the 2000s

[ichkeria]

… which I see I forgot to post!
Sorry
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62163071

[ichkeria]

Now all we need is a certain recidivist to pop up and tell us Vinnitsya isn’t a real place …

[anneasquith]

Ich, so which pic has been doctored, . On there own they are both dreadful.
Who tidies up trainers following an explosion ?

[ichkeria]

The one I posted has partly been airbrushed for reasons which should be obvious
The one on the BBC was taken later

[ichkeria]

I warn you this one is worse

https://ibb.co/LSJ5zgY

[anneasquith]

That’s a wee baby .

[ichkeria]

She’s the girl in the video

[ichkeria]

She was Liza and she had Downs Syndrome

[ichkeria]

The one I posted at 17.09

I’m of the opinion that people at least need to have a chance to see the results of this.

[anneasquith]

I believe these photographs should be shared to suitable adults. ( with a warning) .
This is what humans are doing to each other on a regular basis.

[ichkeria]

It’s also preferable in my opinion Anne to graphic descriptions of the content - which I was careful to avoid

[jourdain2]

There aren't, really, any words, are there? I once knew a young fireman who attended the aftermath of a gas explosion. He cried to me when describing picking-up bits of baby in a room and eventually he left the brigade.

Without being voyeuristic, people need to understand the reality of war. I think it has become over-sanitised though screens, videos etc.. I do know that it was not until I walked through a peaceful woodland path in Germany to reach a clearing where, unexpectedly and shockingly, the Iron Curtain existed and cold-eyed East-Germans were pointing Kalashnikovs at me that I truly felt the fear and understanding. (1964 School Exchange to Germany)

I am very worried about the way some European countries are trying to persuade themselves that its not really enough for them to hurt themselves economically to stop this barbarism.

Perhaps the West has had peace for too long to understand that peace comes at the cost of vigilance and offering a threat against enemies?

[ichkeria]

Very good post Jourdain

[Mozz71]

The foot in the original image belonged to Lisa's mother, who is currently in critical condition in hospital.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/last-minutes-of-four-year-old-girl-s-life-caught-on-camera-before-russian-missile-strike-in-ukraine/ar-AAZAu4z?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=48392a9fcf204b499d13c91705703aaa

[ichkeria]

She died I believe :-(

[ichkeria]

“Answer
you did not post a video you posted a link to Twitter that can only be accessed if you have a twitter account -I don't.”

You don’t need a Twitter account to see links from Twitter

[naomi24]

Jura, // As for those who 'couldn't make out' what the photo was, per-lease!//

What do you mean? If people say they can't make it out it's because they can't make it out. Your phone screen must be bigger than mine.

[Ken4155]

I don't have a twitter account but clicked on the word 'view' and was able to see he video - which, i saw on last night's news. Having seen quite a few 'shattered' bodies during my 3 tours of Ulster, i can honestly say that the images certainly do not appear to have been 'staged' in any way.