'Tommy Robinson' And 'Friends' Make A Nuiscance Of Themselves, So No Change There.

[andy-hughes]

Tommy Robinson leads supporters through London | Watch (msn.com)

 

[Atheist]

I don't think that lying is a crime (usually).

 

[bednobs]

is lying now a crime?

Put me in prison, i told my 11yo this morning there were no chocolate bars left.  But there are, i just want to eat it myself

[Atheist]

Khandro's got himself in a bit of a muddle. In fact the while post has become odd. There are some posters who seem to be defending Robinson without actually admitting what they are doing; they seem to hate Islam so much that they find Robinson almost reasonable.

 

[naomi24]

Khandro, I don't understand where you're going with this.

[Peter Pedant]

depends if you are lying under oath

this can be very bad - lying in a witness statement is actionable ( you have to go to  bed early)

[Khandro]

naomi: Where I'm 'going' is addressing the assertions above, that the only aspect worthy of consideration about T.R. is his 'criminality'.

I challenge them to watch the interview with him I've posted above, but of course they wont because it might interfere with their predjudices. 

[Ellipsis]

> I don't understand where you're going with this.

I think it's called "down a rabbithole".

> Ellipsis; I didn't ask if you had a criminal record, I asked if you have never committed a crime. 

> So you've never been fined for speeding. Never taken anything which wasn't technically yours to take or trespassed. Never lied?

No, never. 😉 But let's suppose that I had, or Rishi Sunak had, or Keir Starmer, or Suella Braverman, or Richard Tice - people that are or were political leaders of some description - is that in some way comparable to a political leader with a long criminal record, including convictions for violence, stalking, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession and public order offences? No.  I could agree with his politics - as it happens, I don't - but I could never agree with him and his methods, and therefore, even if I did agree with his politics, I'd be agreeing with somebody else - not him.

[Untitled]

"amongst all those pro-Palestine marchers, thousands of whom are Muslims, have you ever seen a poster or a placard calling for Hamas - who let's not forget started this war by slaughtering over 1000 Jews in cold blood - to lay down their arms?"

yes! peter tatchell was there saying that. do you know how i know? i saw him with my own eyes and nor was he alone.

[ynnafymmi]

@15.33.Best answer,A-H?Yes,Untitled,there are some on here who dont realise it was the Hamas terrorists who started this ***-sh*w.The Hamas started this latest bit of blood-letting.If a ceasefire happens,it has to be on Israels terms only.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - //

naomi: Where I'm 'going' is addressing the assertions above, that the only aspect worthy of consideration about T.R. is his 'criminality'. //

His criminality is absolutely central to his persona as a do-gooding crusader for the rights of people, when he is actually nothing more than a serious criminal lining his pockets as a by-product of his self-righteous ego-tripping.

// I challenge them to watch the interview with him I've posted above, but of course they wont because it might interfere with their predjudices. //

I have watched it.

And it simply underlines what anyone with even a passing knowledge of 'Tommy Robinson' already knows - he has placed his wife and family in danger by his relentless attention-seeking and self-righteous posturing.

What shines through is his planet-sized ego, the aqrrogance of assuming that 'defending' this country falls to him and his band of football hooligan scum followers.

And why, i wonder, does he still, after all this time, masquerade under the adopted name of a football hooligan?

Most people who want to make a difference do not pretend to be someone else, especially not a hooligan yob.

Why doesn't 'Tommy' use his own name? Does he fear that his double-barrelled moniker will alienate his hoodlum friends?

The man is a joke, a pompous nasty racist joke.

And as for adding the comment that he is 'the bravest man in Britain' - that has got to be a joke, and an offensive one at that.

It offends any and all of the service personel and police fire and ambulance services who have to attend and deal with the fall-out from his rabble rousing nonsense.

He is no more 'brave' than any idiot with a big mouth and a gang behind him - he is the worse level of coward, nothing less.

[naomi24]

Ellipsis, khandro isn't down a rabbit hole.

 

Untitled,  You saw  Peter Tatchell?  Were you there?  Odd because he said that both sides should lay down their arms not just one and I suspect that interview is what you watched.   I asked if you saw any banners or posters demanding that Hamas lay down arms.  Somehow I don't think you did.  

[Untitled]

He was there holding a placard calling for an armistice and an end to the hamas dictatorship yes. 

[naomi24]

Andy Hughes - you watched a video on Tommy Robinson that is over an hour long?  Course you did.  You've offered nothing substantial or relevant whatsoever as an argument here - not a word about what he said on that video.   Simply yet another of your trademark ranting character assassinations.

[naomi24]

That's not the same thing at all, untitled.  I'll ask again.  We're you there?

[Untitled]

"said that both sides should lay down their arms not just one "

you didn't ask about a placard specifying just one naomi... both sides laying down arms would include hamas doing so wouldn't it

[Untitled]

yes

[naomi24]

Ok.  An eye witness - and no placards demanding Hamas lay down their arms.  Just Israel.

[Untitled]

both sides naomi. both. both of them. both israel and hamas. both. inclusive of hamas. it would be a bit silly to demand only one side stop wouldn't it.

[ToraToraTora]

Funny how the lefty types get all frothy at the mouth over one football yobbo yet can't bring themselves to condemn the religion that wants us all dead.

[naomi24]

Those marches are in support of Palestine.  That's why they're awash with Palestinian flags and colours.