Blacks killing Blacks, 27 dead London Teenagers

[admarlow]

Yesterday the 27th teenager was killed in London with a knife or gun, and the vast majoity of the victims AND attackers were black. Before I heard te boys race on the news I knew he was going to be black. My question is why are black people disproportinatly represented i such crimes, it can't be down to econoics as I am sure you would find that there are many more poor white and asian people in London that Black? So my question is simply why?, and has anyone in the media ever put forward a theory (and were they lynched?)

[avoss]

high 5 to bewlay! haha good comments, never a truer word said. this isnt racism, it is fact. "it began in africa",erm i mean america. or both?! maybe it is about time us "whities" should try the racist line next time we are stopped by the rozzers? `is it cos i am white`? after all,we are living in an ethnic MAJORITY. aka `united` kingdom.

[stevie1time]

Go to Salford,i dare any black,pink,green,white or fooking orange who aint local fella to walk into a local boozer there and give it the big un....Whites Shooting Whites, trouble is here we are saying its Blacks who commit majority of crime,more than likely right....but at least they are consistent, whereas this great country that once ruled a third of the world has got worse and worse,has a **** economy,**** sports teams,taxed to death....all this because of our Governments...Gordon Brown aint Black,nor any of his Cabinet....if you think deeply about it...the real criminals who are robbing us,sending us to an early grave are in fact..as that ponce Barrymore would say " All White "

[nomad123]

the more of each other they kill the less of them there will be!!

[stevie1time]

**** poor really nomad,,,,Lets just say your a family man,hard working,obviously with a prejudicial streak that is in us all....Your child is taken seriously ill, needs a heart transplant...there's a perfect match,but the donated heart came from a black child??? Im really sure you'd turn it away and let your child die, you know,you being a proud white man and your strong,impressive intellectual views and stuff...

[nomad123]

might have known you would come up with that old favorite!

[sense4all]

I am not especially interested in the colour issue as I am not sure that is where the true answer lies, and I haven't read the thread in it's entirety. However last week I bought my son a book called Freakonomics and it made a very interesting case on the "if drugs make people rich why do most drug dealers still live with their mothers?" issues, and lots of other socio economic comparisons. You could check it out on somewhere like Amazon,where you can peek inside the book too.

[stevie1time]

Might have known there would be no answer...Like many closet racists as yourself,im sure you work with folks of colour....nice as pie to one's face,pent up anger and insult behind...No good sitting on the fence,shave your bonce and join the BNP, thats not to anyone in Particular,but just to those have plenty to talk about,but **** all to say...

[nomad123]

if you are still there stevie, the ones I am going on about are all wasters who are only brave when tooled up, belong to gangs and have no interest on upholding the law.
i have a west indian as a neighbour who has been in hospital since May last because some **** surgeon cut his spinal cord during surgery and paralised him. I am genuinely gutted for him and his family.!!

[Mortartube]

Quinlad, I see that you are very quick to condemn others who offer an opinion. What is your opinion upon the original question? Please accompany any quotations of facts and figures with evidence.

BTW, I don't know the answers I am just interested in your stance on the subject.

[stevie1time]

For you to look at him as west indian is straight way labeling him,why not just say,my neighbour who happens to be black?? Dont get me wrong, I am British Asian,my ma and pa are from India,i was born here,they gave me an English name,ive served in the British army,Ive experienced more racism from Blacks and Asians than whites...Just dont see the point in making a comment like,there will be less of them..Society and life in this country is to blame,our government....

[nomad123]

ok. so if these people want to kill each other ...so what . dont you think the world would be a better place without them. Black or white?

[avoss]

i agree with that one stevie. and as for there will be less of them,i also agree. (them being gun toting knife wielding killers) of any race/religion. as usual,i blame the government. wheres the deterrent? bring back hangin`! all serious criminals ie rapists,killers,paedos etc should be used for testing/experimenting on in fighting cancer/aids etc.




then hung.

[stevie1time]

Your right avoss, yes there have been miscarriages of justice in the past..But with todays advances in DNA etc, Guilt can be proved without doubt, what more of a deterent is there than Castration,or the Electric chair...Im sure a criminal,or dirty ******* pedo black or white would think twice...

[:]

Stevie I get your points and agree to an extent. However, I see them as a destructive race; they ruin everywhere and everything. Soon as they move into a neighbourhood the real estate value drops. This is noticeable of them where ever in the world they may be.

[stevie1time]

Cant win either way really.....I suppose if we turned the tables and it was Whites,Asians etc, who was forceably taken from their homeland,made to change their identity,take their masters surname,your value in life being how much you were bought for....Then i can only imagine the tables turning...At the end of the day anger lies in many young Black men of today because their history goes back only as far as the slave days,its a burden they carry,just as we would if our history was the same...Unfortunately,its what goes around,comes around....

[:]

The black folks who actually experienced slavery are all dead and gone. Why do the white people of today still have to be apologizing constantly? Ok ... they feel guilty for their ancestors behaviours and apologised, but blacks would not let it drop. Their ancestors are the ones deserving of any apology what-so- ever. They come across as being ignorant at times.

(BTW, I'm neither black nor white and not taking sides either. Just saying it how I see it. And I could be wrong too.)

[stevie1time]

Would you let it drop if it was your Great Great grandparents,family and race.....? Its like the Jewish Folk...The Holocaust, easy for us to say why dont they forget? not our history, to forget is to forgive i suppose...We need to look closer to home..If you want to learn something,then you get someone to teach you,that teacher knows alot more than you,thats why they are teaching you...If you dont respect that teacher and his/her skills you wont learn nothing....Thats where this country is going wrong,take away more powers from the police and teachers, equals more young people who want the easy way out...If i heard someone breaking into my house right now,them thinkin im asleep...me havin half of pick axe under my bed,,,what am i gonna do,kick the ******* **** out of him..who's gonna be arrested???

[andy-hughes]

Hi Bewlay

In the spirit of mature debate - which you and I have enjoyed on many occasions - I do offer my sincere apologies if I have misunderstood your points, or in any way been perceived of personally insulting - you and I both know better than yo descend into that level.

My 'hi-five' comment was something of a knee-jerk reaction, which on reflection, i regret and would wish to withdraw.

Happy 2008 - and lost more exchanges of views between us.

A.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Je ne regret rien. Got any evidence..?

[carsonking]

If you shoot white people, they will investigate properly and nearly always catch you.