What Will You Give To Keep Living?

[goodlife]

Many would do anything to abandon any principle, just to stay alive.
(Job 2:4)

[Khandro]

n. Do you mean the question; //informed by what? //

Answer; Study, Knowledge and intellect.

Of her book, 'The Great Transformation, -The World in the Time of Buddha, Socrates, Confucius and Jeremiah.' The 'Sunday Times' wrote; 'This book is an absolute refutation of the current wave of disreputable and intellectually trivial attempts to banish religion from human affairs .... it deserves nothing but praise.'

And 'The Times'; 'Armstrong reads sensitively, writes fluently, reflects widely and interprets generously .. she shows a formidable grasp of sacred history and biblical scholarship.'

There are lots more accolades, but seems to be none in reference to Rupert Bear.

[naomi24]

Khandro, //Study, Knowledge and intellect. //

But other people have studied, are knowledgeable, and have equal intellect. Nevertheless, they reach alternative conclusions. How do you explain that?

[jomifl]

Perhaps 'disreputable and intellectually trivial attempts to justify the existence of religion' would be more appropriate.
Perhaps also you didn't understand my point after all, however I'll charitably assume that you chose not to.

[Khandro]

Like whom?

[jomifl]

/she shows a formidable grasp of sacred history and biblical scholarship.'/
Perhaps she does but without being able to prove the existence of god 'it don't amount to a hill o' beans'

[naomi24]

khandro, are you seriously suggesting that her knowledge of the subject and her intellect are unparalleled? She believes the Angel Gabriel, on behalf of God, dictated the Koran to Mohammed. Do you?

[jomifl]

/ She believes the Angel Gabriel, on behalf of God, dictated the Koran to Mohammed./
Naomi, you surely are kidding? If she believes that then she must be with the fairies.

[naomi24]

No, I'm not kidding. She views all religion through rose coloured spectacles, she details that claim and, if memory serves, she offers no criticism whatsoever of it.

[Khandro]

n. If you look to her as first source for information, I think you will find she 'believes' that is what devout Muslims believe, she doesn't claim to believe it herself.

j.//without being able to prove the existence of god 'it don't amount to a hill o' beans'//

If that is the best you can come up with for dismissal of someone you have never read, then as Boris has just said on the news, "Donnez moi une break!"

[naomi24]

Khandro, //n. If you look to her as first source for information, I think you will find she 'believes' that is what devout Muslims believe, she doesn't claim to believe it herself.//

That’s true. However, she does give the impression that she is writing from a factual viewpoint and she’s very good at ignoring flaws and inconsistencies that to anyone with a rather more perceptive intellect would be obvious. She could be said to purposefully mislead.

[Khandro]

Well naomi, as you have a "more perceptive intellect" than Karen Armstrong, I'd better leave you with the last word.

[naomi24]

Thank you, Khandro. I believe I do.

[jomifl]

Khandro
j.//without being able to prove the existence of god 'it don't amount to a hill o' beans'//

If that is the best you can come up with for dismissal of someone you have never read, then as Boris has just said on the news, "Donnez moi une break!"
at risk of repeating myself
'without being able to prove the existence of god 'it don't amount to a hill o' beans'
Should I be less polite?

[jomifl]

The 'raison d'etre' of the christian religion hangs upon the existence of god. No god=no religion.
So instead of Ms Armstrong excercising herself over the minutiae of the bible(s) perhaps she should concentrate on more pressing matters such as 'does god exist' rather than 'what does god think'. We know the bible exists, but the other matter attracts a degree of uncertainty.

[naomi24]

//So instead of Ms Armstrong excercising herself over the minutiae of the bible(s) perhaps she should concentrate on more pressing matters such as 'does god exist' rather than 'what does god think'. //

As far as I'm aware she's never attempted anything like that. She doesn't appear to be willing to divorce the historical from the spiritual and often gets carried away with the [dubious] wonder of it all.

[jomifl]

I expect that knowing the mind of god gives her a nice warm feeling..I'm off to Spain for that very same thing ..see y'all next week.

[Hypognosis]

Happy hols, Jom.


Everybody happy? Tra-la la-la-la lah

[goodlife]

Can you liken your “life account” to a bank account, at birth credited with about 25,600 days. When young, this might sound like a great deal of time. Still, at best, when a person is 25 about a third of his days have been used up, like money spent. Like a dwindling bank account the remaining time of life lessens with every passing day. At 35 one’s life at best is almost half over. But even at that, just as a sudden recession or an unexpected turn of events can wipe out a person’s bank account, unexpected circumstances can suddenly deplete a person’s “life account.

Is this the purpose or scheme of life, for one’s days to be spent in this way, all the while being full of “trouble and hurtful things”? for some death of a loved one often gets survivors thinking about this serious matter.—Eccl. 7:2.

[vulcan42]

goodlife, what you have copied and pasted is your belief, it's how religious people live, spending their short lives worrying about what's going to happen when they die. Atheists don't have that problem, we don't worry about our "dwindling bank account", when it's gone it's gone and so are we. Why are you worried about loved ones dying, I thought you believed they go to a better place?

[goodlife]

Sorry Vulcan, did you not know happiness is a precious possession of Jehovah’s people. The psalmist David exclaimed: “Happy is the people whose God is Jehovah!” (Psalm 144:15)