The Times They Are A Changing.

[SparklyKid]

Am I wrong when watching soaps to squirm and shut my eyes when two gay men have a passionate embrace.

Todays soaps seem full of it. Call me intolerant or whatever, I do not want to watch those scenes.

[hereIam]

Apparently Strictly are going to have same sex couples (or couple) next year and DOI which starts in January will have a same sex couple ..

[woofgang]

sparklykid, re holds, as I said they are required to switch during the dance. I wish they had made more of Johannes and Graziano's part, it looked amazing but it was "blink ands you miss it"

[Mamyalynne]

I think as a 'first' they were cautious in approach, I found it refreshing.

[woofgang]

heriam where did you get the Strictly goss from? all I can find is that they are "open to it" I believe Craig RH who supports it said all they would have to do would be to decide who would be the man and who the woman which indicates to me that they would stick to the binary partner rules.

[retrocop]

//I love it when men hug and kiss each other. It just seems so civilised somehow. //

I prefer seeing young men enter a premises and shake hands. Ok. Shaking hands used to be a formal gesture and done solemnly.I noticed,it first,in France some years ago and it seemed so casual and amiable. We British caught on to that later and I consider that civilised. That's just my take on it.

[pixie374]

That seems a long time in coming, Hereiam... about time, really.
Even if it isn't meant for me, men are always more attractive with some self-confidence, rather than a fear of what other men might think. Insecurity isn't my thing.

[SparklyKid]

I shake hands with male family members and, sometimes, hug female family/friend members. Just a peck on the cheek of the ladies, if a cheek is proffered.

[pixie374]

I think that is too, retro- on a very formal occasion. But as friends, teammates, etc, I think it is lovely to see men showing affection to each other- it's very real and much better than those worried that others might mistake them for being gay.

[hereIam]

Doesn't appeal to me at all. I prefer to see men and women dancing together.

[pastafreak]

The same sex dancing on Strictly made such an impression...I'd completely forgotten about it. Not a big deal as far as I'm concerned, life changes constantly. And whether one is bothered by these things has nothing to do with age. I'm sure I'm in a similar age group to some of the protesting gentlemen on here.
Wasn't there once a time when some didn't want to see *anyone* kissing passionately on screen?

[woofgang]

pasta, ofttimes, I still don't. Its not a gender thing and I don't want to see it banned but I do think its often overdone and gratuitous.

[spathiphyllum]

I would rather watch / be aware of two men having sexual relations rather than a passionate kiss. I agree with some of the older males here i'd also find it a bit disconcerting to see two men passionately kissing.

"Two good-looking men though, what's not to like?"

I think unless the man looked exactly the same as the other man i'd always find it a bit strange to see the romantic passion between two men.

[pixie374]

How about two women, spath? Are they different?

[pastafreak]

I do understand what you mean, woof. When boundaries get shifted, it's " oh, look what we can do now...how much further/ott can we go? " Then things settle...hopefully.

[Cloverjo]

I feel awkward watching any couple passionately kiss whether they’re men, women or anything in between.

[hc4361]

I don't like to see anyone snogging on tv - I would be called a weirdo and pervert if I watched anyone doing it in real life.

[spathiphyllum]

Pixie, Yes. Of course.. as a male, watching two women kiss/ engage in sexual relations would cause arrousal in me as well as slight enviousness.

[pixie374]

And yet, spath, on other posts, you claim the only difference between a man and a woman, is what they "claim to be". Your total inconsistency is confusing.
If one of those "identified as female", I assume that would make all the difference for you?

[hc4361]

I'd rather be doing it than watching it. I get no satisfaction from watching others eat, and I'm the same with sex. It's not a spectator sport as far as I'm concerned.

[spathiphyllum]

"If one of those "identified as female", I assume that would make all the difference for you? "

Who knows, it would depend. As this situation is hypothetical i'd have to say no though, generally i'm not atraacted to tranwomen.

Advocating trans rights doesn't mean I want to be with every trans person and it doesn't mean I have to be sexually attractided to trans people.