What Would Jesus Have Done?

[Atheist]

He recommended helping the weak, the meek, the ones who lay injured by the roadside. He commended a Samaritan who helped someone even though the Samaritan was of a tribe disliked by the Jews. He defended a man who collected wood on the sabbath. He said that rich people would find it hard to go to heaven. He said we should turn the other cheek when attacked.

He did not condemn refugees. He did not recommend that we should smite the enemies of the Lord. He did not despise the poor and dispossessed. He did not condemn prostitutes.

He did condemn those who would have stoned sinners.

If he was real, he sounds a rather decent chap, not much like many so-called christians.

[naomi24]

Khandro, what a charmer you are! I didn’t equate those words with my interpretation. I simply answered Theland’s question concerning Jesus’ mother. Was there anything else you’d like clarified?

Theland, the usual. Excuses. No surprise there.

[Theland]

My first post to you certainly holds water. You create arguments for arguments sake, and sadly that means not much is learned from either side.

[naomi24]

Theland, I initially responded to the OP. You - and Khandro - objected to my response, you calling it ‘a rather lazy display of complete rubbish’ and Khandro telling me he thinks I must be deranged. You two believe that people return from the dead and other such hocus pocus - and I’m deranged? Really? I can only suggest that if you want to establish the source of these arguments you keep getting yourself into, you look again - and whilst you’re at it rather than resorting to shooting the messenger as you always do, make the effort to maintain a civilized conversation.

[Khandro]

naomi: Silence is sometimes better than having the last word.

[naomi24]

Khandro, what on earth are you talking about? Have you decided this thread has run it's course - and if so why?

Incidentally, 1ozzy's post that you reported will probably be dealt with in the morning when the editorial staff are working.

[naomi24]

*its* not it's.

[Theland]

Naomi, we know where this is going if true to form. People rising from the dead?
I counter that by saying a universe from nothing?
And here we go again.
Said with respect of course, and not shooting the messenger.

[naomi24]

Theland, //we know where this is going if true to form. //

If we allow you to make the running we do indeed. We bounce from failed prophecy to even more imaginative speculation. Suffice to say I am not in competition. I strip away the improbable and look at what's left. That's all.

[Theland]

I'm happy to learn we are not in competition. I don't want that, as I'll learn nothing from it.
Every view and opinion carries weight, and I consider them all, and if the facts that I believe were true, change, then I am obligated to change what I previously believed to be an important part of my faith.
For example, how difficult must it have been for the authors of the scriptures, to resist the temptation to bias their writings towards the influence of their prevailing cultural norms?
I would say very difficult.
Something I am wrestling with right now, and have been for some time.

[idiosyncrasy]

Atheist //Father, why hast thou forsaken me?//

Good point. Do you think it could be that God left him briefly so that Satan could not say he was protected by his father.
This refers back to Job, when Satan was allowed to throw everything at Job to try to break his integrity.

[Theland]

Idiosyncrasy - Throughout His earthly ministry, Jesus had been in close and intimate spiritual communion with God the Father, but when He took on the sins of the world, in order to take the punishment for them, He was cut off from communion with His Father, who, being so holy, will not look upon sin, therefore whilst Jesus hung suffering on the cross, He did not even have the comfort of His loving Father.
Never has a man been so completely alone, as our Lord, as He was crucified taking the punishment for our sin.

[nailit]

What were Jesus's last/dying words?

[nailit]

It's not a difficult question,
Surely it must have been recorded in at least one of the gospels what his actual last words were.

[alavahalf]

nailit .. "What were Jesus's last/dying words"

I have it on good authority .. as Jesus was nearing the end, nailed to the cross which was mounted high on Calvary. The disciples stood at the foot of the cross and they heard him say ..

" You can see our house from here "

[Theland]

There you go Nailit.

https://youtu.be/en_rIvUDk8o