Prince Harry

[fourteen85]

There has been talk in the press lately about him having lied on his visa form to gain entry to the USA, could he be stopped from re entering after the coronation?

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Zac
to the world ( urbi et orbi)

Be honest, her account is based on her views, the same as mine, and everyone else's.

Hold it, can this be true? wasnt there a mod who insisted that only facts cd be adduced on AB, and opinions ( xc her own of course) were strictly verboten. Fingers chopped off etc if transgressed

now who cd that be?

[Barsel]

Oh well, a thread about Harry has changed to one about Andrew which I believe has been covered several times before, still, I thought I'd add my 2 bobs worth.
Virginia Giuffre left home at a young age just like some girls do.
I don't know how she got to work for Epstein but I don't think she was kidnapped so it was her choice to do that.
He employed her as a someone who would keep his 'friends' entertained and for that service she was payed handsomely and sworn to secrecy.
Along comes Andrew, and Giuffre is instructed to keep him entertained and she is payed by Epstein (not by Andrew like a common prostitute) she is paid for carrying out her job.
When Epstein dies, she decides she can now talk and make some money and this is what she did.
Andrew made a big mistake with that interview as I'm sure he realises now.
If it had been dealt with it the correct way, then he wouldn't be getting all the backlash he has got.
Going back to the original question.
I hope Harry does re-enter the USA and I hope he stays there.

[MissTerious2]

About right Barsel.

[Barsel]

Lottie, thanks for reading my post, not many do and thanks for agreeing. x

[naomi24]

I read your posts, barsel, and I agree with you too.

David, thank you. You’re very kind.

[andres]

Prince Andrew ---------television programme now on Channel4
Very interesting

[Barsel]

Thanks Naomi.

[zebo]

//I believe Virginia Giuffre’s parents weren’t around, or were dysfunctional.//

I seem to recall seeing an interview with her father saying how he would sue Andrew! Where did he think his 14 year old child was every night?

[andres]

^^^^^His14 years old child was living with a convicted sex offender. She did so for 6 months.

[zebo]

////for the rest of his useless expensive meaningless life.//

Mmmmm
I don't suppose the sailors on board ships considered that when he was flying CAP ,above what remained of, our Falklands Armada in attempt to draw off Exodus missiles in a helicopter.//

I recall talking with a man who had served alongside Andrew in the Falklands and he had nothing but praise for him when he was in his helicopter, he said he just became a total prat once he landed it!

[andres]

Did any of you watch the channel4 tv programme earlier about Andrew.?

[zebo]

//‘ What Naomi is saying is that Epstein wasnt a known Paedo’

I know. But it does illustrate the kind of people a prince of the realm was mixing with.//

Jimmy Saville used to visit my late MIL's home in the late 50s early 60s when he was DJing in Leeds, my sister in law and her husband knew him. Does that make them bad people, knowing what's known now about Saville?

[Zacs-Master]

Apology accepted, missT.

On the point about why a woman should be more outraged at Andrew’s alleged use of a 17 year old prostitute, it’s quite simple…..
Men are the users and women are the victims in the vast majority of cases.

[Zacs-Master]

Off course not, zebo. You’ve made a non sequitur argument there.

[Barsel]

Andres, I missed it so I'll watch it on catch-up tomorrow. I see it's in 2 parts.

[retrocop]

//A master debater par excellence//
Whereas some have been accused of supposition on this thread, that's a fact david small. PMSL. :-)

[naomi24]

Zebo, that father’s 14 year old wasn’t with Andrew. She was 17 when she met him.

[naomi24]

I think there are one or two very naive men here.

[retrocop]

//I think there are one or two very naive men here.//

Naomi,
And one of them a very judgemental hypocrite when it comes to lecturing about the morals of a man with a young vulnerable lady.!!!

[andy-hughes]

Retrocop - And who would that be?

Do you have the courage to offer the individual a chance to respond, or do we simply not bother to guess because we don't care?