When Does An 'Ordinary' Muslim Become An Extremist?

[naomi24]

We're often told that there is a difference between 'ordinary' Muslims and extremists, so ignoring those who call for violence and Islamic domination as they march in support of Palestine, but thinking only of the Muslim school children and their parents and supporters who are making news by intimidating students into adopting the hijab, to observe Islamic fasting rituals, and to withdraw from some school activities because they are considered 'haram';   the student who is battling her school in court (at the taxpayers' expense) for the 'right' to pray during school hours, the protestors outside schools, causing one to close early in order to protect staff and pupils, and those who are threatening teachers to the extent that they fear travelling on public transport, one of whom is still, after a very long time, in hiding.   The people who are responsible for all of this carry on their regular everyday lives living among us.  Are they 'ordinary' Muslims - or are they extremists? 

[Khandro]

a.h, //Roy - If as you are keen to rudely point out that your crime obsession is 'news', and postbis not connected to this thread, why not a new thread in news.//

 

I think it is you who are on the wrong thread. Of course that attack is on topic. Get a grip! 

You have no argument, simply a continuous boring & childish contrariness to everything said.

[naomi24]

You're right, khandro, and that  utterly ludicrous post at 17.06 just about takes the biscuit.   Is that naivety ... or something else?

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // 

a.h, //Roy - If as you are keen to rudely point out that your crime obsession is 'news', and postbis not connected to this thread, why not a new thread in news.//

 

I think it is you who are on the wrong thread. Of course that attack is on topic. Get a grip! 

You have no argument, simply a continuous boring & childish contrariness to everything said. //

If you were a little less keen to leap in and be rude - again, very un-Christian of you by the way - you would see that Roy and I cross-posted, and I was not aware of his reason until after I posted.

If you think I have  " ... a continuous boring & childish contrariness to everything said.", you won;t need to bother posting about anything I say, will you.

Which will suit me far more than it will suit you.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // You're right, khandro, and that  utterly ludicrous post at 17.06 just about takes the biscuit.   Is that naivety ... or something else? //

No, he's wrong, as I have just explained, and just because you two are enjoying a teenage crush on each other doesn't mean you have to pile in and back him up.

If you think I am wrong, by all means point out why you think that, but I'm not wrong just because your boyfriend says so.

[naomi24]

Grow up, Andy Hughes.  

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Grow up, Andy Hughes. //

Yes Miss, sorry Miss, is it detention or lines Miss?   

[royfromaus]

No, he's wrong, as I have just explained, and just because you two are enjoying a teenage crush on each other doesn't mean you have to pile in and back him up.

If you think I am wrong, by all means point out why you think that, but I'm not wrong just because your boyfriend says so.

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omg

lol

oh' dear oh deary....deary me.

Pathetic

LOL again.

ha ha

Strewth!

[andy-hughes]

roy - // 

omg

lol

oh' dear oh deary....deary me.

Pathetic

LOL again.

ha ha

Strewth! //

Succint.

Pointless and meaningless, but succinct.

[Countrylover]

Roy, my post to you was because this thread was about ordinary moslems and at what point they turned into islamìc extremists and it is posted in the society and Culture section.  It was not about individual crimes.  That is why I suggested it go into News, perhaps with a link.

[royfromaus]

 Countrylover

Roy, my post to you was because this thread was about ordinary moslems and at what point they turned into islamìc extremists 

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I dare say up until this afternoon he was probably  seen as a normal moderate Muslim...but imo he was acting like an Islamic extremist a few hours ago.

[Countrylover]

And it wasn't meant rudely in any way.

[andy-hughes]

roy - // I dare say up until this afternoon he was probably  seen as a normal moderate Muslim...but imo he was acting like an Islamic extremist a few hours ago. //

Perhaps you bring us the benefit of the breadth and depth of knowledge about Islam and extremism to finally answer naomi's question.

I wait with bated breath ...

[Countrylover]

How do you know he was an ordinary Moslem.  I would presume he was an extremist already.  You can't judge all moslems by a small   percentage, 

[andy-hughes]

Countrylover - Some of us, or rather them, have that gift it seems.

[naomi24]

Are those who intimidate teachers and pupils in support of students who are bullying others into adopting a stricter Islamic code and in support of the girl who wants exemption from school rules extremists - or are they ordinary Muslims?  That's basically the question here.  They're not killing anyone but they're not living in peace either.  

[Countrylover]

Your OP was very misleading Naomi.  When and why ........... would have been more accurate.  

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - If you haven't got an answer that suits you after more than four hundred contributions, maybe it's time to concede that your OP is flawed, and it hasn't had an answer that you want, because there isn't one.

Something to think about.

I'm sure your acolyte will be along in a minute to tell me I'm wrong - again.

[andy-hughes]

Countrylover  - We cross-posted, but clearly you see this wheel spinning as I do.

Incoming!!

[naomi24]

The OP is clear enough and even clearer now so you should have no further problems in understanding it.

[Countrylover]

My last post suggested that this be closed but I got a note on screen saying it couldn't be posted.