Do I Have to Believe Evolution?

[Elderman]

Well,For 116 years it graced the halls of the National Museum of Wales at Cardiff—the fossilised skeleton of a 200m[illion]-year-old predator that once cruised the Jurassic seas,” says Britain’s newspaper The Guardian. “Then curators at Cardiff decided the remains of the ocean-going carnivore ichthyosaurus needed a brush up—and realised that they had been taken in.” “When we stripped off five layers of paint we found it was an elaborate forgery,” said conservator Caroline Buttler. “It was an amalgam of two types of ichthyosaurus plus a clever attempt at fake parts.” Instead of disposing of it, the museum will put it on display as an example of a fake fossil.

[LazyGun]

@ Elderman - BibleQuoter is running out of originality and inspiration, and is reduced to the frankly rather pathetic rhetorical technique of reprinting othe posts - this time his own,

“merely accept the opinions of others and repeat their ideas like parrots rather than taking time to examine the facts.”

This is exactly what you do yourself, Elderman. You are blinkered by your faith, and you refuse to engage with the science and the real world when it conflicts with your biblical worldview. Rather than attempt to understand, or engage, you turn away. Your Faith is like a comfort blanket that babies use to block out the real world, Elderman.

[Elderman]

Yes, those who profess to believe in evolution have a very bleak future. They speak of man’s evolving, developing over the ages into a finer specimen of life than he was in the past. But, as far as the evolutionist personally is concerned, what does his belief offer him? He well knows that as he grows older his health and strength fail, and, in time, death will claim him. The belief to which he holds offers no alternative.

Well science there is danger in the intense emphasis upon science today, . . . to deny that there is any validity beyond the findings of science is absurd.” These warning words by sometimes called the father of the modern computer, are timely. Science does not have all the answers.
Yse you babies do block out the real world.

[LazyGun]

@Elderman - even your insults have become unoriginal and tame. You can do no better than copy someone elses insult? Is your rhetorical battery running down?

1, Catastrophic misunderstanding of evolution number 1. No geneticist, or evolutionary biologist would make any such claim that "man develops into a finer version" over time. Only the uneducated or the wilfully obtuse would make that attribution. 0/10.

Science is a method of thinking about the world about us. Observation, hypothesis, experiment, refinement,further experiment, review, proof/theory/law. Its a gift that only humans, out of all the species on the earth have, and it has given us, well pretty much everything that surrounds us in our modern world.

There are no "essential truths" that cannot be subject to this form of critical analytical thinking.And science has got us a lot further as a species than would falling to our knees and praying to a non existent entity.

[Elderman]

With good reason, millions of people around the world believe that learning about God and obeying him give meaning to life as nothing else can! (John 17:3) Such a belief is not based on mere wishful thinking. The evidence is clear—life was created.

[venator]

Are you still here, Elderman? This gets very boring indeed.

I suppose you still believe the early churches teaching that the sun goes round the earth? Do you?

[jomifl]

Elderman, can you given us any examples of how belief in 'god' has benefitted mankind. I don't mean wishful thinking about the future, I mean the here and now.

[LazyGun]

@ Elderman - You stated "The evidence is clear—life was created.".

Contrary to your claim, there is no credible, independantly corroborated evidence to suggest any such thing. Your approach to evidence and science is the same as your approach toward religion - its all based on faith - what you believe, in the absence of evidence.

[lcg]

how has this thread got so long? personally, i think we should stop fanning elderman's flames and talk about the weather instead of (t)his drivel x

[Elderman]

The facts. The confident statement made by the NAS brochure is quite surprising. Why? Niles Eldredge, a staunch evolutionist, states that the fossil record shows, not that there is a gradual accumulation of change, but that for long periods of time, “little or no evolutionary change accumulates in most species.
To date, scientists worldwide have unearthed and cataloged some 200 million large fossils and billions of small fossils. Many researchers agree that this vast and detailed record shows that all the major groups of animals appeared suddenly and remained virtually unchanged, with many species disappearing as suddenly as they arrived.

[jomifl]

Elderman, you really should read up on evolution, Darwin wrote a good book on the subject. If you restrict your reading to the deliberately misleading nonsense churned out by the religious ignorati then you will never grasp it. The evolution of living organisms is driven by environmental change. The periods when the rate of evolution was low was when the earth's climate was stable so organisms adapted only as far as was necessary. Another period of vulcanism, ice age or continental drift and everything began evolving again. The quotes that you keep giving are cherry picked and used out of context to justify miscomprehension and defend outdated attitudes.