Does It Say In The Quran That You Should Kill Jews/christians/unbelievers?

[Henrietta]

Why would god create everyone and then tell one group to kill another? That makes no sense if it's true

[maggiebee]

No it certainly does not. How certain people interpret it may differ of course.

[Henrietta]

What does it say about unbelievers/jews/christians and what exactly are people interpreting wrong?

[maggiebee]

Maybe you should read an English translation and make up your own mind Henrietta.

[RATTER15]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

[naomi24]

Yes, it does. Apologist will tell you it’s all down to interpretation, but it isn’t. The infidel is the enemy. Islamic literature makes that abundantly clear.

[mushroom25]

1.[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[Khandro]

You can always save yourself from being beheaded by paying the JIZYA tax.

[boxtops]

Ask naomi sayss, it's down to the interpretation of "fight" in that quotation - the original Arabic may not have used that word, it could mean "resist" or "try to convince" - Arabic's like that.

[naomi24]

Boxy, I didn't say it was down to interpretation - I said apologists will tell you that. In my opinion, it's quite clear.

[Khandro]

naomi; Do you understand Arabic?

[naomi24]

Khandro, why do you ask?

[Khandro]

^ Why don't you answer?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The perfect example of the prophet and the guide to life is found not only in the Koran, but also the sayings and actions of God's messenger as recorded in the Hadith, Henrietta. Here's a fine example (picked at random - there are hundreds more like it):
"Some people from the tribe of 'Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.".
Obviously the Arabic may allow of more than one interpretation, and I will be prepared to accept (if an expert can explain it to me) that the cutting off of the feet and hands and the branding of the eyes may be some kind of metaphor.

[vetuste_ennemi]

What's the difference between a western scholar and an Islamic one, Khandro?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The example I cited wwas from one of the more respected compilers of hadith, Henrietta. Here's a link:

http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/

[sandyRoe]

Rustling is a serious crime and merits condign punishment. Didn't the string them up in the Wild West?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oh dear, Sandy. Sorry, mate, I'm going to have to educate you:

(Re 7th century Arabia)
"Another time-honoured way of preserving the balance of power was the ghazu or raid, which was a constant occupation and almost a national sport. In time of hardship, members of one tribe would raid the territory of one of its enemies in the hope of carrying off camels, cattle or other goods. Bloodshed was avoided where possible, because this would lead to vendetta. Again, robbery was NOT considered immoral unless you stole from ...kinsmen.... The ghazu ensured a reasonable turn-over of wealth and meant that what food and goods were available were, in a rough and ready way, shared between (sic) the groups which were competing for them".

[Khandro]

v_e; //What's the difference between a western scholar and an Islamic one ?//
Go on, I give up.

[vetuste_ennemi]

A western scholar has read more than one book.

[kvalidir]

Don't give up your day job Vetuste ;/