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Bible believers (or Koran believers) justify it....
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Eh???
Gawd...I Think I'll take the red pill where Theland is concerned!
Like trying to have a conversation with a politician!!
I seriously give up. Have tried many times to have serious conversations with people of belief, both on here and in real life, and its always the same...
They are right and you are wrong....no middle ground!
I can quiet understand how some people can fly areoplanes into buildings, burn crosses and hang blacks, hate jews, or kill infidels.
Its all the same. Dogmatic belief kills people,
Don't be dogmatic...
Eh???
Gawd...I Think I'll take the red pill where Theland is concerned!
Like trying to have a conversation with a politician!!
I seriously give up. Have tried many times to have serious conversations with people of belief, both on here and in real life, and its always the same...
They are right and you are wrong....no middle ground!
I can quiet understand how some people can fly areoplanes into buildings, burn crosses and hang blacks, hate jews, or kill infidels.
Its all the same. Dogmatic belief kills people,
Don't be dogmatic...
Theland at 19:22 Thu, you’ve made that up – and before you tell me it is your opinion once again you’ve declared that atheists are in for a shock. The naïve could be forgiven for thinking you know what you’re talking about. Dangerous and potentially damaging stuff you’re spouting again, Theland, and that isn’t right.
There is no such thing as Hell. This is a fallacy put about by the Catholic religion to keep the masses under the control of the church.
"Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they offer the punishment of "eternal fire".(Catechism of the Catholic Church).
The Bible translates the Hebrew & Greek words often translated hell, actually refer to the common grave of mankind,
Many have striven to be pious out of fear of hellfire but God does not want people to serve him out of fear.
The Bible tells us that "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at al, nor do they have any reward, because all memory of them is forgotten".
So where does the idea of hell come from? Of all the philosophers the one who had the greatest influence of Hell is Plato, a classical Greek philosopher.
However, in recent years some denominations have revised their teaching on hell. One such defines hell as "eternal death in our rejection of God". Another is promoting the idea that the "end of the wicked is destruction, not eternal suffering".
Many who give thought to the traditional doctrine of hell find that it seems to depict God as acting unjust so it offends their natural sense of justice. But God is love and the Bible shows that the idea of burning people in a fiery torment is abhorrent to him. For instance, how would you feel about someone who punishes a child by burning the child's hands in a fire? Wouldn't you think him cruel. Well God as our Creator, would never allow people to suffer in that way.
"Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they offer the punishment of "eternal fire".(Catechism of the Catholic Church).
The Bible translates the Hebrew & Greek words often translated hell, actually refer to the common grave of mankind,
Many have striven to be pious out of fear of hellfire but God does not want people to serve him out of fear.
The Bible tells us that "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at al, nor do they have any reward, because all memory of them is forgotten".
So where does the idea of hell come from? Of all the philosophers the one who had the greatest influence of Hell is Plato, a classical Greek philosopher.
However, in recent years some denominations have revised their teaching on hell. One such defines hell as "eternal death in our rejection of God". Another is promoting the idea that the "end of the wicked is destruction, not eternal suffering".
Many who give thought to the traditional doctrine of hell find that it seems to depict God as acting unjust so it offends their natural sense of justice. But God is love and the Bible shows that the idea of burning people in a fiery torment is abhorrent to him. For instance, how would you feel about someone who punishes a child by burning the child's hands in a fire? Wouldn't you think him cruel. Well God as our Creator, would never allow people to suffer in that way.
Hell...invented by people to ensure that their servants / slaves / others do what they are told to in this life on the threat of an appalling eternity in hell.......blackmail/ bribery/ very threatening. Luckily many people do not believe in supernatural beings and therefore the threat doesn't cut it any more. I have always been amused by the thought of a 'loving' god threatening people with eternal pain etc!!