God Does Or Does Not Exist

[Theland]

The most fundamental question.
Answer it as you see fit, or ignore it as you see fit.

[vulcan42]

" "We simply don't know," is not good enough for me."
That is a ridiculous statement.

[Theland]

Vulcan - how so?

[Theland]

You can progress to the truth by eliminating the impossible and see what is left.
A universe from nothing? Impossible.
Life from non life? Impossible.
Evolution? Impossible.
That narrows things down a bit.

[fender62]

[ludwig]

I don't know if God exists. If he does he can't be very nice. That much I do know.

[naomi24]

^ Like it!

Theland, you can narrow it down as much as you like - but still you don't know ... and moreover if you do somehow conclude it all emanated from a supernatural (irrational concept 'supernatural') source, you don't know who or what is responsible. Conclusion: you don't know.

[Theland]

Ludwig - what makes you say that?

[naomi24]

'^ Like it! '

^That was to Fender's Wonderful Wizard.

[bhupatibarman]

I haven't seen God, I felt.

[Theland]

Naomi - You are not an authority on what is knowable.
Use your own reason to eliminate the widely held beliefs that support absurdity.

[naomi24]

Pardon?

[Stargazer]

It is possible to know which part of the original statement is true.

[Theland]

Pardon?
What do you believe?

[naomi24]

I believe the truth.

[Theland]

Then we have that in common.

[naomi24]

No Theland, you don't know what the truth is. You just tell yourself you do. The truth is no one knows - and that's the truth.

[vulcan42]

Theland, because we don't know. You may say you know, you might even think you know but you don't. What you think is the truth is a belief and whether you accept it or not a belief is not necessarily true just because you say it is.

A universe from nothing? Impossible.
Life from non life? Impossible.
Evolution? Impossible.
You constantly question the expertise of Dawkins, where is your expertise to enable you to state the above?
Like your belief's, saying these things are impossible isn't true just because you say so.
From your own words you're not even an expert on teapot stands, yet you come out with preposterous statements without providing one iota of proof.

[Zacs-Master]

Why does everyone persist in ‘debating’ with Theland? His theory’s are moronic and he never answers any serious point, preferring to insult the relevant poster and go on to make some obtuse biblical *** in reply.

[Theland]

Vulcan - Scientists are not high priests speaking in tongues.
We are not stupid and can understand evidence when it is presented.
Proof of a universe from nothing? Dawkins has none. Proof of life from non life? Dawkins has none.
Evolution? Dawkins has no proof of that either, and neither does anybody else, but like climate change, it is widely believed because of hysteria and hype over many many years.

[naomi24]

//It is widely believed because of hysteria and hype over many many years//.

One could be forgiven for thinking you’re talking about religion, Theland.

If you were confident in your convictions you would have no need to constantly seek endorsement.