The Authority For Morality.

[Theland]

What do you consider the ultimTe authority for morality?

I believe it is God.

[woofgang]

My answer, having thought about it is that I don't know and am not sure that morality is a fixed enough "thing" to have an ultimate morality. I think that "do as you would be done by" is a fairish place to start also "An it harm no one, do as you will"....also "do your best"

[david small]

Your own conscience dictates your morals according to your culture. Many simply have no conscience, we refer to them as scum. They refer to us as mugs.

[Theland]

Then the murderer and the paedophile must also be in charge of their own morality?

[Theland]

Some cultures love their neighbour, others eat them.

[davebro]

"Then the murderer and the paedophile must also be in charge of their own morality?"

Yes, of course. Who else could be?

[Old_Geezer]

Being a human concept it is officially whatever the dominant society says it is, but wiser individuals are capable of disagreeing.

[mibn2cweus]

The desire to do what is right follows from knowing what your options are, how to fulfill them and understanding the ultimate consequences of your choices. Extra points are not awarded for the failure to acknowledge personal responsibility.

Reality is the final arbiter of right and wrong.

[beso]

Nailit //And of course, the OT doesn't apply any more. Even though some of it does apperently??//

Not at all. This is what Jesus says of the OT.

‘Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18)

[Theland]

When it come to morality and charity, many atheists would put Christians to shame. No doubt about that.

But we are made in the image of God and have a conscience, which is the still small voice that we obey or ignore.

[Theland]

Morality is a philosophical question, so it is interesting to listen to them too.

[nailit]

//When it come to morality and charity, many atheists would put Christians to shame//
Change from Stalin, Pol Pot, etc!

[fiveleaves]

Yes, God is the ultimate authority as His laws are absolute.
Those who believe in the culturally defined standard for morality are faced with, to give one example , if say in 50 years time 95% of the population think pedophilia is ok, then by definition it will be ok

[retrocop]

//if say in 50 years time 95% of the population think pedophilia is ok, then by definition it will be ok //

God forbid.

[Theland]

It won't be long before, (after abandoning Gods laws completely), we shall see, not only LBGTQ etc, but many many more sexual identities, and, "marriage," between who knows what and how many? It will put the Mormons to shame as,"new marriage," with no overarching authoritative norm, becomes like something emerging from the jungle.

[SparklyKid]

But we are made in the image of God

Rubbish Theland. I am the image of my parents.

[pixie374]

We don't go by "God's laws" already. We go by human ones. Which would you change.

[pixie374]

Rubbish, fiveleaves. Even atheists generally agree that consent is necessary.

[Theland]

Many years ago, divorce was frowned upon, and living together unmarried was shocking as was being born out of wedlock.
How times have changed as God has been pushed out of public life.

[pixie374]

Were Adam and Eve married?

[10ClarionSt]

In answer to the OP: what a surprise!