Make Me An Atheist.

[Theland]

Can you convince me of the truth of Atheism?
Quote references from scientists, philosophers, theologians or anybody you like, but anything except an unsupported personal opinion.
Please?

[Theland]

In your mind no!
In your mind God does not exist.
In your mind, the question does not arise.
Does your unbelief comfort you?

[nailit]

//Its a shame you think that//
No its not a shame, its been an education into the mindset of religious people.
Certainly an eye opener into the nastiness of evangelicals

[Mamyalynne]

Nailit, you know your Father was a good man and deserves no torture ,you also know the same will apply to your Mother - as hard as it is try not to let what someone else thinks cause you any more upset.

We have to accept that there are differing opinions and as an Atheist you are now free of those worries.

[Theland]

Nailit, Mamya speaks wisdom. Listen to her.

[nailit]

//Nailit, Mamya speaks wisdom. Listen to her.//
I do/would, rather than read your end of days prophecies and everybody that doesnt agree with you is going to hell including my loving, non christian, parents (my father whom is already stoking the fires of hell apparently) What a sick belief system!
My cancer stricken mum not long behind...

[jackthehat]

nailit - I understand your pain but please don't focus your anger all towards Theland.
He doesn't deserve to get both barrels, you may find yourself suspended and I think you'll really need to be able to come on here to speak with and take comfort from other ABers.

[Theland]

I don't get it.
I'm condemned for what I THINK?

[Mamyalynne]

Theland, if you think I have any wisdom at all then I'd advise you to walk away from this for tonight.

[nailit]

Ive a warning of Jack so no point in replying anymore. Leave it to others now,

[Mozz71]

He offered advice Nails. Chill mate, things are rough for you, I know, but stop lashing out.

[jackthehat]

Fair go, nailit.... :o(
It was only a bit of friendly advice. Evenings that start off like this usually end in you getting yourself suspended and then you'll be sitting alone, brooding and overdoing your alcohol consumption without being able to talk to folks on here....

And if you do, it'll certainly be nothing to do with me.

[HansUrbancka]

JTH... If you have read fully through this thread you may possibly realise that Theland upsets people by Not answering fair and reasonable questions. He has asked ' Make Me An Atheist' and ignores sensible comments from those who are. When it comes to his answering of questions I am still waiting to hear just a Yes or No at this stage as to whether he believes in Adam,Eve and the Garden of Eden. Dare I ask Jack, do you .? There are other issues which I have raised with him but I'll pursue those in other threads.

There is also the matter of his continual rudeness and the insults he throws at people. Should not he be threatened with the possibility of suspension for such.

Hans.

[jackthehat]

Theland must look to his own conscience and behaviour......and if that lands him in hot water, he'll just have to accept it.

nailit is in deep pain and lashing out at 'anyone' on here could see him suspended *but* he has history with Theland and in railing against a God he no longer believes in Theland is becoming collateral damage.

[naomi24]

Nailit,. You’re going through one of the hardest times of your life right now - I know that - so best you leave this section for the time being. X

Theland, //I'm condemned for what I THINK?//

You’ve hurtled into victim mode again. You’re not ‘condemned’ for anything. As always your unsubstantiated claims provoke criticism. That’s all. Drama is surplus to requirements.

[Theland]

Again, I'm bored and it appears I have nothing valid to contribute, so I'm out.

[nailit]

Apologies for my rant last night, especially to Theland, you didnt deserve that, im sorry. I wasnt in a good place.
Its just that I cant wrap my head around 'hell' theology. It really is one of the sickest doctrines in christianity, (And Islam)
Theland, I actually believe that you are a decent human being. Its your christian theology that I have trouble with, not you as a person. Ive said before that one of my closest friends is a retired pastor and he is one of the most decent human beings that you could meet and its a privilage to have him as a friend. BUT I vehemently disagree with his theology as well, to the point of ....like on here...frustration.
Once again, please accept my apologies (drink has a lot to answer for...)

[nailit]

In reply to your query
//Does your unbelief comfort you?//
No it doesnt, why should it?
Facts are facts irrelevent to belief.

[Mamyalynne]

Well said Nailit, that's a lovely thing to read.

We're all here for you whatever our beliefs are.x