Self Righteous Religionists, Just Gotta Love Em Eh?

[nailit]

My sons G/F is pregnant.
Her Uncle is a pastor.
He's just stated that the baby (my grandson) is a product of sin.
You just got to love these people of faith havnt you?

Dick!!

[naomi24]

Theland, //Because a TRUE beloved would be held back by conscience from yh e deed. //

I assume you mean 'true believer', but most non-believers wouldn't dream of murdering anyone either - and not simply because they have a conscience - so how does that work?

[Theland]

Believer

[Theland]

How many murders committed by non believers?
Some.
By true believers?
None.

[pixie374]

Have you got a link for this fairly outrageous claim?

[naomi24]

Theland, //How many murders committed by non believers?
Some. //

If only some have been committed by non-believers, who committed the rest?

[Theland]

My poor English!
SOME unbelievers commit ALL murders.
Hope that's clear.

[andy-hughes]

Peter Sutcliffe said God told him to kill prostitutes, that makes him as much a believer as you Theland.

[SparklyKid]

Hi AH, back of the net,lol.

Avatar Image andy-hughesPeter Sutcliffe said God told him to kill prostitutes, that makes him as much a believer as you Theland.

[pixie374]

Clear, theland, but wrong. Some believers commit murders too.

[Theland]

No. A true believer could not.
I'm not talking about religious but jobs here, who hear voices etc.

[pixie374]

Baffling...

[vulcan42]

\\ I'm not talking about religious but jobs here, who hear voices etc.//
You're just rearranging the rules to suit your argument.

[Theland]

Andy - I'm surprised at you! Surely your tongue was firmly in your cheek?

[Spungle]

Was King David a 'true believer' when he committed murder, Theland?

[Theland]

Vulcan, not at all. What do you think Christians believe?
Obviously not what you assume.

[Theland]

Spungle - King David had to contend with God for his sin.

[Spungle]

He sure did. But speaking from experience, some of us commit sin after our 'conversion'. Such is the flesh. But, I dont know of any 'true believers' murdering people either. It's not that, as believers, we are incapable of failing. But murder does tend to be premeditated, rather than inadvertant.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // No. A true believer could not.
I'm not talking about religious but jobs here, who hear voices etc. //

As usual, when prodded, you resort to the galaxy-sized ego of the fervent in that you presume to know what God wants, and whom he speaks to - or not.

It is not for you to decide that Mr Sutcliffe's assertion that he obeyed God's instructions made him, 'a religious nut job' to use your delightful terminology.

As far as I can see, he is no more of a 'religious nut job' than Abraham, Moses, Mary, and Jesus, who all claimed to hear God speaking to them - Mr Sutcliffe merely confirmed the same, and who are you to decide that the rest were entirely within their right minds, and he was the exception?

Could it be that his actions in staving in the skulls of innocent women was merely part of 'God's plan' - which Christians constanty confirm he has for all of us? Let's be honest, it's hardly worse than some of the actions God has seen carried out in his name - too many to list here of course, but i am sure you can think of a few.

So as far as I am concerned, Mr Sutcliffe was every bit as much of a Christian as you are, and he carried out God's commandments as God told him to do.

Can you honestly argue with any basis of evidece that what I say is not true, as opposed to saying you would like it not to be true, which of course is not the same thing.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy - I'm surprised at you! Surely your tongue was firmly in your cheek? //

Please see my previous post, and be assured I am absolutely serious, and await any argument you can muster in defence of your attitude.

[Theland]

Andy, the scriptures are the measure of all things.
Hearing voices, seeing visions, anything in fact, that contravenes scripture is poison.