Shameless Boris Says He Made A Mistake Apologising For Partygate.

[gulliver1]

Boris says the scandal from partygate was the downfall of him and the Cons. His apology was the beginning of the end of his days as PM. Now Defiant Johnson, rather than feeling a sense  of remorse claims his mistake was to Apologise for Partygate. I was just trying to defuse public anger with pathetic apologies even though I knew nothing about what I was apologising for. And the band played believe it if you like🤣

[davebro3]

It was a stitch up in Westminster. The Tories would have fared better to stick with Boris - he still had a lot of support in the country. Instead they went through stupid leadership selection procedures which further divided & weakened the party.

[davebro3]

and it seems they are currently repeating the process!

[naomi24]

Of course they should have stuck with Boris.  When the country went to the polls in 2019 did the Tories really think all those Labour voters suddenly changed their politics?  Not on your nelly!  They voted for Boris.  His downfall was in getting Brexit done - something that  the majority of his party - and the rest - didn't want at all.  They'd have been very happy to say to hell with democracy and to hell with the will of the people.  He wasn't.

[Peter Pedant]

The Privileges Committee consisting in the main of people who hated him

o god we are not going to have a go at " he cannot be judged because there is no one fit to judge him" and must go free ?

[Peter Pedant]

His downfall was in getting Brexit done - something that  the majority of his party - and the rest - didn't want at all. 

o god this thread has degenerated into the usual AB nonsense. He ( Boris, BoJo, Boris the liar) was voted to get Brexit done - along with the Boris BS, and the smoke and mirrors

and the rest, ( prescient for a change) didnt want it at all, because they knew what a disaster it wd all turn out to be

and so it has

[gulliver1]

Boris was not at  fault ..The people who voted him into power were.

[Peter Pedant]

Boris was an idle tasser - so not his fault is a bit hollow

I the mods ( bless them all!) have stared slapping you around on length of time to elect a new buffoon

[Hymie]

As my mate Phil explains, besides the Partygate apology thing – the mad man seriously wanted the UK to start a war with the Netherlands.

Heaven help us if he ever gets into power again.

 

[Hymie]

Now that the majority realise Brexit was a mistake – to hell with democracy.

[newmodarmy]

It's no surprise to see Hymie shoehorn Brexit into this

[jackthehat]

///... to hell with democracy.///

A democratic vote was held and the will of the majority, of those who voted, was enacted. I would say that was democracy in action.

[ToraToraTora]

"I would say that was democracy in action." - that's what Hymie cannot accept.

[Ellipsis]

> Boris was stabbed in the back

Yes, he never did that to anybody else, did he? Live by the knife, die by the knife ...

But apart from that - he is a charlatan and an inveterate liar, that should never have been Prime Minister of a great country like ours ...

[Deskdiary]

Hymie only believes in democracy when it goes his way.

[Ellipsis]

Well, to be fair to Hymie - the idiot Tory PM Cameron set up a stupid referendum that required a straight majority, rather than - for example - a supermajority that would normally be required for such a momentous change; lies, social media, the weight of change and the Tory press was biased one way, for Brexit; and in the end, the vote went 37% to 35%, with 28% not voting. So, and especially given how well it has gone, no wonder Hymie and his ilk are still unhappy ...

[Deskdiary]

I voted remain and am still unhappy we lost the vote, but the difference is I accepted that remain lost because I believe in democracy. This constant harping just screams to me that Hymie doesn't. But let's say even if there had to be a supermajority (and there wasn't so even raising it is irrelevant) and leave still won, he still wouldn't have accepted democracy.

[gulliver1]

Best Answer to Ellipsis @ 17.30

[ToraToraTora]

18:35 why is a majority not good enough for you? We never even had a vote on joining. I can't think of anything in history that has had anything other than a simple majority, why do you think this should have been any different? Just sounds like more sour grapes because you lost. I can tell you why too. You did the one thing that always makes the British do the thing you don't want, you tried to frighten us. The whole remain campaign was project fear, no one on your side had anything positive to say, they merely tried to frighten us, history has shown that does not work. You call Cameron an idiot but the remainers lost the vote for him.

[Ellipsis]

The difference between going in and going out was what happened in the meantime! As for why proper democracies go for supermajorities when the circumstances dictate, just Google it ...

[ToraToraTora]

19:59 I cannot find an example of anything that required anything other than a simple majority. Over to you.