Anti-Ukip Campaign Good For Ukip?

[Gromit]

Everyday we see stories in our newspapers attacking UKiP and Farage. These stories from papers supporting the Conservatives and Labour are designed to put voters off them, but there is evidence it is having the opposite effect.

// Farage attacks backfire on Labour and Tories //

// Labour and Tory polling is showing that attacks claiming Nigel Farage is a racist have backfired since voters do not regard him as such and see the assaults as a sign that the political establishment are ganging up to undermine him.

The apparent backlash is coming to both parties from telephone polling and focus groups, which say that the attacks have raised Farage's profile and confirmed him as the anti-establishment candidate. It does not tally with published opinion polls that show the Ukip lead in the European elections narrowing slightly. //

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/20/labour-tory-poll-ratings-farage-attacks

Do you agree the establishments' campaign backfire?

[kvalidir]

You're probably right because I didn't understand that one either lol

[Kromovaracun]

Come to think of it - this relates to Khando's post.

Why does everything always come back to the Nazis? I mean, I know we're on the internet and Hitler is probably one of the one internet's patron saints or something, but it seems that virtually every issue in British politics gets refracted by "just like the Nazis" or "If you had been there in 1939..." or "trying to do what Hitler couldn't."

Again and again and again. Even in scenarios where it really has no bearing on the situation at all.

Why? Why is it necessary?

[Svejk]

cos left whingers throw Hitler into every argument they're losing?

[Kromovaracun]

Well, except it isn't just the left. We've heard the "trying to achieve what Hitler couldn't" line to describe the EU, "Thank goodness you weren't here in 1939" said to people who aren't anti-immigration, and plenty more.

It just seems to be a feature of how we think about politics.

[whirlyhurly]

Just scaremongering.

[Svejk]

there is the 'odd' reference to Nazi's from the right. But you must admit, maybe for obvious reasons, it's usually a lefty sort of tactic.

[ludwig]

//It just seems to be a feature of how we think about politics. //

The serious answer krom, is that WW2 was the last time the country was seriously threatened with foreign invasion, and it wasn't that long ago. The conflict shaped the whole of modern Europe. The cold war, the EU, conflict in the middle east and even the current shennanigins in Crimea etc are all by-products of that time.
Also the nazis represent a sort of high water mark of human evil within living memory, so it's inevitable they get used as benchmark of badness in these chatroom type discussions. I don't find the continual mentions they get partcularly strange.

[Kromovaracun]

No. I don't think one side has a monopoly on it.