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does anyone know where I can buy maple sugar, cream and butter from a uk mail order company? I know I can get it straight from Canada and the US but the p and p and customs make this very expensive.
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Yes its going to be difficult for families whose older members are frail or indeed for anyone of any age who is vulnerable. Nothing of this is easy or pleasant, there is no way to get through it that will be easy or pleasant or safe, just less safe and a bit safer. Apparently its not like a cold where you shed a shedload of virus before there are symptoms which is why handwashing, catching coughs and sneezes and self isolating is important and the best option.
Total lockdown now. All bars cafes restaurants shut only allowed to do home deliveries which leaves us out as no one can find us. We are not allowed to go on the streets u less shopping for necessities and medicine. We did our normal shop today and got all we wanted. Had to queue for 2 hrs to pay! No idea if I still have to go to traum appointment or if buses are running. I'll phone on Monday. The army is preparing to patrol the streets!!
I'm not flattered to see the Mail thinking along the same lines
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//Britain's over-70s will be told to self-isolate for four months in a wartime-like mobilisation by the government to stop the spread of coronavirus.//
//It is understood to include banning mass gatherings, allowing the police to detain suspected virus victims and forcing schools to stay open.//
I'd like to hope the Mail's got it wrong, but I notice they don't say "maybe".
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//Britain's over-70s will be told to self-isolate for four months in a wartime-like mobilisation by the government to stop the spread of coronavirus.//
//It is understood to include banning mass gatherings, allowing the police to detain suspected virus victims and forcing schools to stay open.//
I'd like to hope the Mail's got it wrong, but I notice they don't say "maybe".
I wouldn't believe the Mail if it said the sky was blue. I AM sure that all those measures and more are listed as options in the planning process...they would not be doing a decent job if they had left them out. I do think that kind of reporting is not helpful. Given that last week the report was that schools would be closed for an extra week either side of the Easter hols and that report says they will be forced to stay open...I think that there is something of a credibility gap there.
Jno, same information but a more measured delivery https:/
well, I've just got my new Freedom Pass (that's an all-across-London bus, tube and train pass) and as usual it has my date of birth and postcode encoded in it, so in theory anyone who wants to find out my age and track my movements on public transport has the means to do so. No need to demand my birth certificate, they know where I live and where I've been.
As I said, I'm hoping the Mail's got it wrong, but they're quoting Peston and he's pretty reliable. It may be of course that the government are leaking plans to him to see what sort of response they provoke (Boris does love to be loved and may prefer to back away from confrontation); but even that official link says older and more vulnerable people will soon be asked to self-isolate whether they have symptoms or not, which is how the Mail headlined their story.
As I said, I'm hoping the Mail's got it wrong, but they're quoting Peston and he's pretty reliable. It may be of course that the government are leaking plans to him to see what sort of response they provoke (Boris does love to be loved and may prefer to back away from confrontation); but even that official link says older and more vulnerable people will soon be asked to self-isolate whether they have symptoms or not, which is how the Mail headlined their story.
Being asked to and enforcement are two very different things. Tracking you assumes that you take your pass with you and its you using it; also consider the amount of effert it would take to chase after individual naughty over 70 YO's and take them home under armed guard....its really not a goer is it? Its already been said openly that with any of the closure/isolation options, they will need to be applied only when needed and only for as long as needed because they know that there will be practical problems and compliance issues.
Early morning all
All sounds very gloomy.I've been Whatsapping the Germans. Quite a large number of cases in North Rhine Westphalia.People picked it from other people during the carnivals.
Three cases here now in Kings Lynn.I've told my brother to stay away. He's nearly 86 now and has a heart problem.He'll go up the wall stuck indoors but it's for his own good and the wider family. Two of his grandchildren work at the hospital,one here and one in Norwich.
We're staying put.I think it's the responsible thing to do.
Keep swigging the brandy Robinia:)
All we can do is hunker down and hope for the best.Eat well,try and sleep well and take any vitamins you have knocking around.
On a brighter note I sliced my finger open on a tin of corned beef this evening.It was a bloodbath.Why is it always corned beef or tuna tins.
Jno,all the best for your birthday.Many happy returns,have a good day xx
Night all.
All sounds very gloomy.I've been Whatsapping the Germans. Quite a large number of cases in North Rhine Westphalia.People picked it from other people during the carnivals.
Three cases here now in Kings Lynn.I've told my brother to stay away. He's nearly 86 now and has a heart problem.He'll go up the wall stuck indoors but it's for his own good and the wider family. Two of his grandchildren work at the hospital,one here and one in Norwich.
We're staying put.I think it's the responsible thing to do.
Keep swigging the brandy Robinia:)
All we can do is hunker down and hope for the best.Eat well,try and sleep well and take any vitamins you have knocking around.
On a brighter note I sliced my finger open on a tin of corned beef this evening.It was a bloodbath.Why is it always corned beef or tuna tins.
Jno,all the best for your birthday.Many happy returns,have a good day xx
Night all.
thank you all. Possibly my last big birthday...
Woofgang, I've no idea whether anyone will want to track my movements. But the technical apparatus is already there to do it, without requiring anyone to carry formal ID. It's been there for a long time but nobody's been worried by it; they know that for East Germany to make it work they had to get half their citizens to spy on the other half, and it's simply not worth it.
Still, they've now got a pretext to do it if they want: that "it's for your own good". Other countries have locked down everyone. Britain is going to do it just to the elderly. That can only be divisive. Australia is already thinking about fining those who don't obey orders.
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I seriously don't like the way this is going.
Woofgang, I've no idea whether anyone will want to track my movements. But the technical apparatus is already there to do it, without requiring anyone to carry formal ID. It's been there for a long time but nobody's been worried by it; they know that for East Germany to make it work they had to get half their citizens to spy on the other half, and it's simply not worth it.
Still, they've now got a pretext to do it if they want: that "it's for your own good". Other countries have locked down everyone. Britain is going to do it just to the elderly. That can only be divisive. Australia is already thinking about fining those who don't obey orders.
https:/
I seriously don't like the way this is going.
The elderly as an individual group will not be locked down. Most of the UK will not have the smart pass tech for them to do it, it assumes that you will carry it every time you leave the house and that the man power exists to enforce it which it doesn't...as I said elsewhere I would be more concerned if this advice was not given because then the subtext would be that the elderly are a disposable commodity.
pesonally, I do have my pass every time I leave home because you can't get far on foot and going by car in London is a nightmare. (The last time I drove out of my local area I got a £50 ticket because of getting into a wrong lane somewhere.) It is still possible to pay for tube tickets and not leave an electronic footprint, but it requires ticket machines to be working - I don't think any tube stations have manned booths any more.
I realise it will only be advice, but I also think it's quite possible that the next step will be the Australian one: advice becomes demand and sanctions are considered for non-compliance. It all depends how authoritarian the government is feeling; and given the mass inexperience of the cabinet, I can easily see them going for the hardest-line policies under pressure.
I know the Mail story is a worst-case scenario, but pretty much everything that's happened so far wouldn't have been predicted a month earlier. Hence my concern.
I realise it will only be advice, but I also think it's quite possible that the next step will be the Australian one: advice becomes demand and sanctions are considered for non-compliance. It all depends how authoritarian the government is feeling; and given the mass inexperience of the cabinet, I can easily see them going for the hardest-line policies under pressure.
I know the Mail story is a worst-case scenario, but pretty much everything that's happened so far wouldn't have been predicted a month earlier. Hence my concern.
Quite right Woofy .All or nothing really or people will start shouting about discrimination.
Staying at home doesn't bother me though as I don't go out much anyway and can find plenty to occupy my time,although being "forced" to stay in would probably make feel that I want to go out, if you get my drift.
I think I'll crack open a bottle of whisky.Long time since I had a whisky.If we run out of mouthwash I can gargle with it :)
Staying at home doesn't bother me though as I don't go out much anyway and can find plenty to occupy my time,although being "forced" to stay in would probably make feel that I want to go out, if you get my drift.
I think I'll crack open a bottle of whisky.Long time since I had a whisky.If we run out of mouthwash I can gargle with it :)
it doesn't bother me either Shaney. I can't leave my old dog now, not even with someone else because of his petit mal type episodes. They aren't bad or frequent but he needs supervision when they happen and aren't predictable. I am fortunate though because I have got a garden. I have no idea what I would do if I lived in a flat....mind you I used to spend months on ships with my husband and access to the outside was limited there or stopped entirely if the weather was bad.
Afternoon hermits...happy birthday again jno, I wasn't sure if I'd be present today. (I don't mean I was expecting to expire)
How are your anxiety levels? I'm now concentrating on the here and now, I've converted one doubter to my way of thinking, and others can do their own thing ...for now. My neighbours asked me if I needed anything from the shops a couple of hours ago which was thoughtful. I hope their trip doesn't turn into a treasure hunt.
I'm wondering.... if catching it is inevitable wouldn't it be better to have it sooner rather than later? At least there are mexicos still standing at the moment and hopefully hospital beds available if it turned serious. It's undoubtedly going to get much worse before it gets better.
Ouch! shaney. One of the worst cuts I've ever had was from a corned beef tin. I was yelling & waving my hand about, blood everywhere. Ozzy walked in, grabbed my wrist, stuck it under the tap, slapped a plaster on it, said 'Carry on' and went back to the tv. :)
How are your anxiety levels? I'm now concentrating on the here and now, I've converted one doubter to my way of thinking, and others can do their own thing ...for now. My neighbours asked me if I needed anything from the shops a couple of hours ago which was thoughtful. I hope their trip doesn't turn into a treasure hunt.
I'm wondering.... if catching it is inevitable wouldn't it be better to have it sooner rather than later? At least there are mexicos still standing at the moment and hopefully hospital beds available if it turned serious. It's undoubtedly going to get much worse before it gets better.
Ouch! shaney. One of the worst cuts I've ever had was from a corned beef tin. I was yelling & waving my hand about, blood everywhere. Ozzy walked in, grabbed my wrist, stuck it under the tap, slapped a plaster on it, said 'Carry on' and went back to the tv. :)
police are going to get powers to arrest people who have Covid and aren't self-isolating. That's more or less okay with me, though I do wonder how they're supposed to get to medical help (not just doctors, dentists too) when they need it.
Australia's taking the next step: fines for suspects, those who've been in risky places (cruise ships, for instance) but don't have any symptoms themselves.
But the UK position creates a third layer of people: those who aren't ill and aren't a risk to others but who are deemed to be at risk from others.
I'd like to hope this third position will be unenforced and unenforceable - but nobody's said that will be the case.
Australia's taking the next step: fines for suspects, those who've been in risky places (cruise ships, for instance) but don't have any symptoms themselves.
But the UK position creates a third layer of people: those who aren't ill and aren't a risk to others but who are deemed to be at risk from others.
I'd like to hope this third position will be unenforced and unenforceable - but nobody's said that will be the case.
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