France's burka ban

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/6gqmpsn

Well done the French for having the guts to introduce the 'burka ban', but it seems with a little trepidation.

/// Earlier, French police said they will be enforcing the country’s new burka ban "extremely cautiously" because of fears of provoking violence. ///

Belgium introduced a full ban last year, and a ban also looks likely in Holland, Spain and Switzerland.

Could Britain ever have the guts to do likewise?

[welshlibranr]

I think that sometimes men have worn the burka to hide their identity!........and I also think that it's not appropriate to wear one when you choose to live in the West!.........

[steg]

any one could put a burka on walk into a bank or any where and try to rob it

[237SJ]

Men don`t wear burkas! Maybe I`ve had a sheltered life but I`ve never seen a man in one!

[askyourgran]

Nox I happen to agree with e.crespo. I object to the fact that they can carry on as though they have a right to criticise us, making demands and censuring our way of life. Their menfolk it seems are unwilling or unable to control themselves with any women and they keep their wives subservient. They have chosen to come here and live in a modern society, not some medieval sandpit, that said, their customs are strange to us and there isn't a hope in hell of integration, nor do I think they want to. Britain should do as we think fit for the good of our country, if it means banning face coverings so be it.

[pa___ul3]

anyone could wear a fake beard and glasses and walk into a bank and rob it... well, anyone with a gun and a way of opening the safe and getting round the other security defences!

[steg]

seems to happen all over the worl and has been for a while

http://articles.times...h-station-compartment
,
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/178478

http://archive.thepen...rchiverest/58975.html

[steg]

i'm glad you can tell a man from a woman in one most cant, i'm sure you can tell a muslim from a non muslim in one aswell

[pa___ul3]

ok so that's 3 people wearing a burka to do wrong... are you going to give us the stats on how many people wear them and don't do wrong and are genuinely women who wear them as a mark of their faith? That really is a pathetic argument!

[steg]

"are you going to give us the stats on how many people wear them and don't do wrong and are genuinely women who wear them as a mark of their faith?"
paul - no i'm not, and i don't think it has to do with their faith either.

i was replying to

"Men don`t wear burkas! Maybe I`ve had a sheltered life but I`ve never seen a man in one! "

"Who are they hiding their ID from? "

"Nobody wears them to hide their ID. Why would they? "

3 yes but there are 100's more

[steg]

"That really is a pathetic argument!"
i'm not arguing anything, it is fact

[237SJ]

Three yes but in the larger scale of things a tiny minority

[steg]

3 more than you said there was tho

[237SJ]

steg - you`ve lost me now! So a man tried to get on a train in India dressed as a woman. How funny. Have you been on the London Underground lately?

[steg]

sj you said ""Nobody wears them to hide their ID. Why would they? "

i answered YOUR question so why are you lost?

london underground is 500 miles away from me so no not recently, why?

[pa___ul3]

what has it to do with then if not their faith?
I assumed you were saying because these people have used it to hide their identity and if you see one youre scared in case its a man who'd going to rob a bank you wanted them banned, is that not the case?

[steg]

paul - no, never assume, i have never mentioned me being scared, or wanting it banned

[welshlibranr]

Sorry, but I am with France on this one!.........if they want to live in the West, then they need to become a n part of that culture, and that includes the way you dress! no burkas in the uk!!...........Outlaw them!.........

[keyplus90]

Do not have enough time to read whatever others said. I am personally not in favour of Burkah or anything that covers one’s face but I respect it as people's choice and have no issue with that.

But one thing does always make me laugh when I read few people saying that Burkah is sign of oppression. If you believe so then why do you need to bring in a law to force people to take it off? After all that is more oppressing especially when people are defiant. Because very simply that means that your perception was a mere misconception because the one who had been forced would not defy when someone would try to get them out of that.

Finally I do not want to say if French have made a mistake or not. It is their country and they have right to bring in any law they believe would make their country better or safer. Having said that being a Muslim I believe if anyone believes that they would push Islam on the back foot with anything like this then they are simply wrong. It will work other way and that is the beauty of Islam. Just wait couple of years and see what I mean. You would see more French people converting to Islam in years to come in very near future. Just as when propaganda against Islam increased after 9/11 more people converted to Islam as a result of that.