Refuse entry for security reasons.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....-travel-agencies.html

In view of this and other such incidents, plus the calls for a nation wide ban on the burka falling on deaf ears, I wonder if for security reasons it would be lawful for banks, shops, travel agents etc to ban anyone wearing a burka from entering their premises?

[roxie_09]

And again chavs are not all intimidating (not condoning them) yes they wear their hoods up and other trademark habits, but thats their 'culture' setting themselves apart from the rest. x

[pa___ul3]

that's a bit daft to be fair, it's not cultural in the sense that it is an act to be followed in keeping with their beliefs. And they absolutely do wear them like that to appear intimidating, it's all about reverse prestige i.e. talking less politely, appearing rougher and harder, that's what get's them respect in their circles so that's their intention. Maybe those who don't appear intimidating are just naturally not intimidating enough regardless of how hard they try.

[Brenden]

em10 The government could stop the wearing of burka's tomorrow if they wished. They are more visible than mobile phones in cars. I would like to see what would happen if we took our "culture" over to a muslim state ie mini skirts, low necked tops. bikinis etc.

[pa___ul3]

Brenden, would they be right to stop us from wearing what we wanted or should we be allowed to wear what we like (so long as it doesn't cause offence to the majority)?

[Brenden]

I would like to think "that when in Rome"pa_ul3. An instance was when a friend of mine visited Venice many years ago and wore hotpants, stopped by the police and sent back to the hotel to change, was she angry - no, she never wore them again on holiday. Would our casual dress offend muslim countries - yes.

[emmie]

Brenden, they couldn't and they won't. EU in the guise of European Court of Human Rights, now controls much of what we can and cannot do, and if you look at AOGs thread about the rights of foreign criminals not to be deported, on the basis of their human rights, even though they have committed serious crimes in Britain, you will see that this will never happen.

[anotheoldgit]

Why is it unenforceable?

If a law was passed that said it was against the law to wear such a garment, then anyone who ignored this law could then be arrested, end of.

Just as anyone apart from Sikhs,could be arrested for not wearing a crash-helmet while riding a motor cycle or anyone could be arrested for not wearing their seat belts.

Why do some think the law could not be enforced against them?

[Brenden]

Agreed AOG

[pa___ul3]

so you're suggesting these Muslim's who are offended by our comfort in showing a fair bit more flesh than they are just drop their beliefs and flaunt it like we do? Should we ask prudish old women to do the same? Would you expect all women to go topless on a beach in Spain or Greece just because that's what a lot of locals do? There's a massive difference in what you're suggesting.

[Brenden]

You missed the point pa_ul, I said when in rome, meaning you abide by their laws, please read the threads more carefully. And you asked would it be right to stop us wearing what we wanted if it offended them - yes.

[pa___ul3]

do you want to be a little less patronising in future, please, "when in Rome" doesn't mean "abide by their laws" it means do what the locals do so I think my interpretation was justified.
And if you do mean to say that they should abide by our laws, well they are, so we should just all forget it then shouldn't we!

[Brenden]

Pa_ul I did state when in rome abide by their laws, i never mentioned local people - you did, patronising - never.

[DrFilth]

ankou you need to go on stage but don't give up the day job

[emmie]

too simplistic, and the police would be the ones caught in the middle, same as they are in France. They would neither have the time, nor the resources to put this into place, and you can just see the scene now, woman wearing burkha dragged off the street screaming, that will go down well in the media, won't it. One of the things i object to, is the double standard, as most Muslim men i see, wear western style clothing, whilst many Muslim women do not. There are plenty of Muslim women activists, across the world, who do speak out, one was killed not too long ago, for daring to oppose those who wish to deny women education, arranged marriages, and no voting rights, and you do see some of those attitudes in Britain.

[emmie]

Pixi, no one knows for sure if many of those women are doing it for themselves, or for their husband, and family, and maybe many do not speak out for fear of reprisals. If that is the case then they are oppressed, and fear is the key to keeping people silent.

[Brenden]

Uncalled for Redhelen