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[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....-travel-agencies.html

In view of this and other such incidents, plus the calls for a nation wide ban on the burka falling on deaf ears, I wonder if for security reasons it would be lawful for banks, shops, travel agents etc to ban anyone wearing a burka from entering their premises?

[jackthehat]

Yes, redhelen!
Please remember that this is where ABers come to be rude and offensive about 'other' people not have people be rude about them and their ill-thought out opinion!!

[pa___ul3]

Em10, when it's forced upon someone I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people would disagree, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, the lot, but I'm sure you'd agree that that also goes on in western culture.
I can also see your point that, in essence, it does contradict western ideas of modern feminine equality, but it's not alone in that. If you look at the Amish people, they have strict dress codes too.
I think I've said in a previous post, that side of the issue is deep rooted in their own culture and can only be addressed by themselves (should they so wish) different cultures have different beliefs and it's incredibly arrogant and disrespectful to suggest that one side knows better than the other.

[Brenden]

I have not been rude to anybody and that was my comment, I do not speak for the other ABers.

[DrFilth]

does that answer aog's question

>> I wonder if for security reasons it would be lawful for banks, shops, travel agents etc to ban anyone wearing a burka from entering their premises? <<

[emmie]

Pixi, its not sad, but wrong, Britain has moved on, its won some hard battle in the last hundred years, womens right to vote, better working conditions for men and women, and endless other progressive laws. But like it or not, we are seeing a situation where many people in Britain who don't care to see women wearing the Burkha, are hushed up, because saying so is causing friction and open hostility within our society. That means my rights if you like to express that view will be largely thought of as a racist one, as per Redhelens answer, which i find hard to understand, The KKK are white supremicists, something that would be abhorrent to most people in Britain. I could be married to a Muslim man and still dislike the Burkha, where does the racism come in there.
And when in Rome does mean abide by the laws, customs of that country as i have seen, not wearing a head covering once in church was considered not done, now much of that has changed.

[emmie]

Many of the Amish people, and their ideologies are dying out, it may not go completely, but they are in effect a small minority, and are looked on by many in US as quaint and something of an oddity.
Many don't respect my culture, and way of life, for what its worth, arrogance and disrespect is a two way street, and to suggest that it isn't is plainly absurd. I have no religious leanings whatsover, and i would like to think that we will all come together for the common good, but i wouldn't put money on it.

[Kromovaracun]

"But like it or not, we are seeing a situation where many people in Britain who don't care to see women wearing the Burkha, are hushed up, because saying so is causing friction and open hostility within our society."

This is not true. You and several other people in the thread are quite openly saying so, and you're not being persecuted for it - nor are you going to be.

Furthermore, numerous journalists have come out publicly in favour of a burkha ban - not so much at the minute because it's not a headline issue, but it certainly was the case when it sprung up as an issue when the French decision was pending.

People are challenging you on whatever grounds they see fit - because they're as free to do it as you are to endorse a ban on the burkha. If their claims are totally groundless, then you should be able to defend yourself perfectly well. That how (in theory...) democracies are supposed to progress - we decide which ideas are best by arguing over them and seeing which comes up strongest.

[DrFilth]

Kromovaracun >> you're not being persecuted for it - nor are you going to be. <<

have you read all the posts kromovaracum i remember one saying a person would be at home with a kkk outfit on for having such views.

[DrFilth]

this is the best bit pixi
>> incredibly arrogant and disrespectful to suggest that one side knows better than the other. <<

disrespectful, shame people dont think about it when the insult aog, joe loo , rebelyell even sqad gets some in fact a lot of people get slagged off

i hope sir alex never reads the posts

[DrFilth]

best bit of the post

[DrFilth]

just pointing out to you what i think is the best bit of the post

nothing nasty pixi just trying to be friendly do you not think it is funny that people say that yet they will insult other ab members

[Kromovaracun]

"have you read all the posts kromovaracum i remember one saying a person would be at home with a kkk outfit on for having such views."

And? Does this infringe upon your rights somehow? This is not evidence of persecution. Not to mention the fact that the comment in question was made in jest (albeit maybe in bad taste).

[DrFilth]

>> made in jest (albeit maybe in bad taste). <<

i don't think so

[DrFilth]

no smily at the end of this

>> I suggest the people that wish to ban this type of clothing are the type of people that would feel at home dressing in a white sheet with a white cone hat showing the initials KKK! <<