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Why Don't We Just Let These Loonies Kill Each Other?

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ToraToraTora | 15:29 Wed 05th Nov 2014 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29916620
We should order a news blackout, get anything we have out and let them get on with it. The whole sorry *** h0le is not worth one more drop of bl00d, it's not worth even putting on the news, the last thing we should do is send troops there, I don't care!
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// We need to treat this like D Day and we won't because it'll upset Gromit and co in his Islington coffee shop. //

If you had been paying attention, I have been supporting all out war against ISIS for several months.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1357509.html

Failure to act now will make our inevitable confrontation with them much more difficult.
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As I said above, if we are going to sort this it will need to be on the scale of D Day and we know that won't happen. We need to systematically weed the whole region.
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great gromit we agree to massive action, we both know that won't happen, anything in between will be futile, that's my point.
AOG...."So you agreed at us going into Iraq to defeat Saddam Hussain, and into Afghanistan to stop the Taliban's slaughter there"

Yes, I most certainly did !

When did Saddam and the Taliban suddenly become the good guys...did I miss it ? Just to remind you, the Taliban were famous for killing girls in the street, just for being there. They also tried to murder Mallah recently. Saddams favourite way of killing his opponents was to lock them in the boots of cars and then put the car in an industrial car-crusher. We are will rid of them AOG !
andy-hughes

May I extend my hand in friendship once again, not just because you have just agreed with me, but because we have both enjoyed a god debate together in the past, and now after our recent differences we can learn to join in debate without the cause to include nasty snide personal remarks against each other, or the pomposity that one or the other doesn't know what the other is talking about.

I feel that if we both stick to these rules, we can once again debate together amiably.

mikey4444

Oh yes I forgot it was a Labour government that got us involved in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and we all know that Labour can do nothing wrong, don't we?

You failed to address those other areas of Africa, should we now send troops in there, because there is a huge amount of massacring all over that continent?
I believe (and am happy for anyone to put me right), that the reason we will never be able to ignore the conflict regions is because we haven absolutely enormous financial stakes in the Middle East.

The West needs stable democracies there, because the world's largest energy sources are located there.

I'm old enough to remember what happened when the OPEC nations decided to hike up the price of a barrel of oil back in the 70s.

It was the catalyst for a global recession.

Our governments will not allow our interests to be hijacked by extremists.

There is a humanitarian element to our involvement, but at the end of the day, there's extremely valuable black sticky stuff in the ground that needs to be protected.

If we retreated and 'let them get on with it', and allowed the region to be taken over by those hostile to the West, I believe we would be looking at 1974 again.

And for those who can't remember, 1974 sucked*




(*Apart from when Abba won the Eurovision Song Contest).
AOG - "andy-hughes

May I extend my hand in friendship once again, not just because you have just agreed with me, but because we have both enjoyed a god debate together in the past, and now after our recent differences we can learn to join in debate without the cause to include nasty snide personal remarks against each other, or the pomposity that one or the other doesn't know what the other is talking about.

I feel that if we both stick to these rules, we can once again debate together amiably."

Thank you so much for your gracious post - I am delighted that we can (once again!) bury our differences, which, as always, arise from the heat of debate rather than any genuine personal animosity.

I look forward to us butting heads again very soon!!

A.
andy-hughes

/// I look forward to us butting heads again very soon!! ///

Good job I still have my steel helmet. :0)
Saddam Hussain was not a threat to the West. He had nothing at all to do with 9/11. That is why I didn't support our invasion of Iraq.

ISIS are different. They are expansionist. They will spread as far as we let them and they attack us where ever they can.
Your veiled attack on Labour is rather misplaced, AOG, as it now appears to a Tory Government who is sending British troops back into Iraq. I am not criticizing dave here, as I didn't criticise Blair. If it needs to be done, it should be done.

I take it your think it was better if Saddam and the Taliban were still committing genocide ?

I would be quite happy to see Britain play its place in any action that might be needed in Africa, as part of a UN force.
Tee hee, AOG has a steel helmet - imagine that clattering against the porcelain as he takes a wee.
// The West needs stable democracies there //

We have never supported or promoted democracies in the region.

We want stable countries and those are usually dictatorships, be they run by monarchies or Life Presidents.

The first democratically elected President in Egypt we were happy to see deposed by a military Junta.
Is it one of those helments with a big spike on the top?
mikey4444

/// Your veiled attack on Labour is rather misplaced, AOG, as it now appears to a Tory Government who is sending British troops back into Iraq. I am not criticizing dave here, as I didn't criticise Blair. If it needs to be done, it should be done. ///

It is the Tory/LibDem government that is showing a certain amount of caution over this, much to Labour's wishes.

/// I would be quite happy to see Britain play its place in any action that might be needed in Africa, as part of a UN force. ///

Are the UN involved in Iraq?
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/// Tee hee, AOG has a steel helmet - imagine that clattering against the porcelain as he takes a wee. ///

Don't know about you but I don't pee out of my head.
Appeasement didn't work in the 30s with one group of nutters hell bent on global supremacy... why would it work with another lot now???? Decisive action must be taken soon
...well you are a d.. only joking ;-)
Slappy...with you there !

If AB had been around in the 30's, we would have people on here extolling the virtues of Hitler getting Germans off the dole and into work, to say nothing of praising his ability of dealing with the Jewish question ! After all, there were too many Jews in Germany at the time apparently and they were the cause of every ill that the nation faced !
Many more Iraqis have died and been injured as a result of us removing Saddam than he (or even his odious sons) could ever have taken against.

and, he suppressed the religious extremists

Once we start deciding that some 'bad guys' are better than others we are doomed to repeat our disasters; such as demonstrating to many Afghans that the Taliban were preferable to the War Lords, corruption and anarchy we have replaced them with.

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