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Farage Puts His Foot In It...again ! ( Part 257 )
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -wales- politic s-30370 570
Apparently the reason that he didn't turn up in Port Talbot was :::::
" It took me six hours and 15 minutes to get here - it should have taken three-and-a-half to four. That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be."
What on earth has immigration to do with the M4 being busy ? Wouldn't that be the same for every road in Britain ? The M4 into South Wales was designed in the 1960's and there have been many calls for it to upgraded. Its always even busier on a Friday afternoon.
So we are all now expected to believe that traffic jams are caused by immigrants ? Really ?
There are some people on here that will no doubt say... "there he goes again, having a go at UKIP" but with own goals like this, is it any wonder that Farage and Co are so ridiculed ?
By the way, has complete insanity broken out in South Wales in the last few days ? Apparently 100 UKIP supporters paid £25 each to see this man. I am in Cornwall at present and I have phoned home but all the relatives that I have spoken to still appear to have complete control of their senses.
Mind you, I don't live in Port Talbot ...bit too posh for me !
Apparently the reason that he didn't turn up in Port Talbot was :::::
" It took me six hours and 15 minutes to get here - it should have taken three-and-a-half to four. That is nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a population that is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be."
What on earth has immigration to do with the M4 being busy ? Wouldn't that be the same for every road in Britain ? The M4 into South Wales was designed in the 1960's and there have been many calls for it to upgraded. Its always even busier on a Friday afternoon.
So we are all now expected to believe that traffic jams are caused by immigrants ? Really ?
There are some people on here that will no doubt say... "there he goes again, having a go at UKIP" but with own goals like this, is it any wonder that Farage and Co are so ridiculed ?
By the way, has complete insanity broken out in South Wales in the last few days ? Apparently 100 UKIP supporters paid £25 each to see this man. I am in Cornwall at present and I have phoned home but all the relatives that I have spoken to still appear to have complete control of their senses.
Mind you, I don't live in Port Talbot ...bit too posh for me !
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Forgot to ask, why are you ignoring all the links I've provided that concur with Farage's assertion and the Labour MPs who have pretty much endorsed those views on immigration, including the much respected Frank Field?
13:11 Mon 08th Dec 2014
Probably not, although if your heart's wishes come true and ALL Tory voters defect to UKIP, then it is a distinct possibility. Regardless, it is an undeniable fact that UKIP are here to stay and irrespective of how many seats they may or may not win, their support is going to have a profound effect on the election result. To suppose that every vote for UKIP is a vote less for the Tories is far too simplistic analysis, IMHO.
"What on earth has immigration to do with the M4 being busy ? Wouldn't that be the same for every road in Britain ?"
Over population is the cause of congestion on the M4, Mikey, and that holds true for all congested roads in the UK. Immigration is a major contributor to population growth, so Mr Farage's remark is by no means as outrageous as it may seem.
Since you mention the 1960s, the population of the UK has increased from around 53m to over 64m (around 20%) in the last 50 years. England has seen a greater growth of around 30% in that same period and although I don't have the figures it is probable that the population in the "M4 corridor" has increased even more than that. Every year between 1998 and 2012 net inward migration has accounted for more than 50% of the population growth experienced in the UK and that figure does not include the children of those migrants (and remember migrants tend to have a higher birth rate than the population already here).
So Mr Farage's contention certainly deserves some consideration. The UK, particularly southern England, is overpopulated and problems with essential services, including roadspace, are evident. Last year around 560,000 people arrived to settle here and it is highly probable that some of them will want to travel along the M4.
Over population is the cause of congestion on the M4, Mikey, and that holds true for all congested roads in the UK. Immigration is a major contributor to population growth, so Mr Farage's remark is by no means as outrageous as it may seem.
Since you mention the 1960s, the population of the UK has increased from around 53m to over 64m (around 20%) in the last 50 years. England has seen a greater growth of around 30% in that same period and although I don't have the figures it is probable that the population in the "M4 corridor" has increased even more than that. Every year between 1998 and 2012 net inward migration has accounted for more than 50% of the population growth experienced in the UK and that figure does not include the children of those migrants (and remember migrants tend to have a higher birth rate than the population already here).
So Mr Farage's contention certainly deserves some consideration. The UK, particularly southern England, is overpopulated and problems with essential services, including roadspace, are evident. Last year around 560,000 people arrived to settle here and it is highly probable that some of them will want to travel along the M4.
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just an indication of the contempt that Mr Farage appears to show his electorate, and on this occasion the welsh in particular. this was to be their first welsh conference with an important reception event Friday evening; an event that was important enough to warrant guest payment, but one which Mr Farage was too up himself to abandon the chauffeured limousine (and the uncertainties of today's motorway network) for.
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