The Oldest Gay In The Village

[joggerjayne]

How cool is this guy ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-33741380

Every year, he takes part in the Pride Parade ... on his mobility scooter !!

He carries a banner saying " I'm the oldest gay in the village".

In the past, he has been given a criminal conviction for being gay. This weekend, he married his BF, to coincide with Pride Weekend.

That's the way to go when you're in your 90s!

[retrocop]

You can say what you like about me if you will but your bigotry is certainly marching to the fore the more you display your incandescence,
Fact is that some do not share your enthusiasm for gay marches and have honestly told you of their view.
Fact is you do not accept that some may disagree with your view and their right to tell you.
Fact is you do not honestly admit you have an intolerant view on someone who has committed no crime other than being a paedophile but not committed any acts.
Fact is you will not answer Yes or No to Would you be happy to have a legal march in your town which consisted of paedophiles.? JTH you have not answered the question no matter what you may protest.
I do not fly the flag for paedophiles but you do not allow others to disagree with your views on the benefit or worth of Gay Pride Marches so I believe you are displaying arrogance and bigotry when you defend the right to have these marches against others disapproval.
You also display the arrogance to tell me what you think my opinion is on this subject.

[sunny-dave]

I have said none of the things you attribute to me - none at all, none whatsoever.

My sole post was in sheer and utter disgust at the way you have perverted a celebratory post into something which fits your own twisted and unsavoury world view.

I would defend your right to hold your views - but dressing them up as "a wind up" is pathetic and by doing so you forgo all rights to be taken seriously.

[Peter Pedant]

sunny dave and andy because - retro wrote
// Now the dust is settled it is time for me to fess to some mischief making on your Post. //

and you dont write something like that if you are serious

[sunny-dave]

Too easy PP, too easy - a feeble excuse that is about as seaworthy as The Titanic apres le berg.

[retrocop]

pp
Quite so.Thank you. Some people do take life sooooo seriously. As we have gone through a similar mill I tend to make a joke of a lot of things but not Paedophilia I hasten to add though ,again,some will accuse me of doing so.

[gness]

You used the subject of paedophilia to make mischief....that was very cheap and warped, Retrocop.

And you are mentioning your illness once again as you so often do when you are on the back foot.

[retrocop]

But I am not on the back foot and I haven't mentioned any illness.What illness are you referring to or imagining?

[gness]

Oh come on!

[retrocop]

Gness
Sorry if that is the best answer you can come up with when challenged then it was hardly worth my time waiting to reply.
Good Night.

[gness]

R....when you have been offensive you do two things....and you have done both tonight.

[sp1814]

I think we should do this - whenever someone tries to link gay people with paedophiles, we should simply accept that some people genuinely believe there is a correlation and not try to argue with them. It's impossible to change someone's beliefs even if you think they're talking nonsense.

As my mother used to say - it's like trying to put a blancmange into an envelope.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //You can say what you like about me if you will but your bigotry is certainly marching to the fore the more you display your incandescence,//

You taking others to task about perceived bigotry should have a little picture of a pot and a kettle next to it.

// Fact is that some do not share your enthusiasm for gay marches and have honestly told you of their view. //

Never argued by anyone on this post.

//Fact is you do not accept that some may disagree with your view and their right to tell you. //

Again, not stated, but presumed (incorrectly) by you.

//Fact is you do not honestly admit you have an intolerant view on someone who has committed no crime other than being a paedophile but not committed any acts. //

Are you seriously still trying to pedal the notion of 'tolerance' for paedophilia? Seriously???

//Fact is you will not answer Yes or No to Would you be happy to have a legal march in your town which consisted of paedophiles.? //

As JTH opined, that question is beneath contempt and does not deserve the dignity of any response, apart from an expression of disgust that anyone would seriously as it.

//I do not fly the flag for paedophiles ... //

If you think that, based only on what you have posted on this thread, then I suggest you are delusional.

Are you familiar with the phrase 'When in a hole, the best thing to do ....'?

[retrocop]

sp1814
Can we agree that most laws of this country are based on religious teachings?. The Ten Commandments outlaws Theft, Adultery etc .
Can anybody on AB overcome the hurdle of honest straight talking and may be admit that their parents/grand parents did not approve, promote, discuss or condone homosexuality? I would suggest that the large majority of our forbears did not because what they did approve of was their religious doctrine.
I note that two champions of homosexuality both admit to being atheist,agnostic or whatever but also state that they were brought up to believe in the Catholic church which they both now renounce and have steered away from their parental guidance.That is their right and I am not surprised given the revelations of what the establishment of the Catholic Church both male and female get up to.
So what was law and probably founded on church law has now been long repealed but still within my lifetime. That law was established by the great and the good,some would say,and repealed by the same great and good. Do you think that the law may have been repealed because of the lobbying of some closet homosexual MPs?. I am totally serious.We know there were a few.
We have the view,by some, that since the law has been repealed we have come forward a long way since those bad old days and the world is so much better for that progressive,liberal,right on thinking.
I was bought up in a family that followed the teachings of the church . I am not an atheist. I chose not to break away from my family's beliefs and views with regard to homosexuality.
Those of us of an older generation remain faithful to our upbringing and I will not apologise for that.
Now aog and I have been villified for not sharing the views of the majority on this thread and have had "intolerant" thrown our way. I am castigated for making a comparison that obviously touched some raw nerves.
We have mikey on almost a weekly basis informing us of another member of the establishment who are being prised out of the woodwork. We all,quite rightly, voice our abhorrence at these vile disgusting creatures. No different is it to what our parents probably said about homosexuals?
So our progressive liberal thinkers seem to believe we have come forward.
Well lets put the clock forward shall we. What if we see what we think, now, is unthinkable actually happen? So many establishment figures are paedophiles that the law is repealed in the future. Nobody here condones paedophilia and will state their disapproval in no uncertain terms just as their parents may have condoned homosexuality. So what might our progressive liberal grandchildren think of us.Will we be condemned by them for our intolerance to paedophiles, just because it was made legal or will some stick to the views of their forbears as I, like it or not,have done?
, see the unthinkable happen

[jackthehat]

Paedophilia is NOT a victimless crime and the victims are the most vulnerable in society.....and as such can never be condoned; whereas Homosexuality has no (yet, watch the arguments to the contrary suddenly appear) victims.

You are entitled to find Homosexuality distasteful, no-one has argued that you can't. But trying to compare the two is obscene.

[ummmm]

I'm finding all the copy and pastes and long posts without paragraphs too hard to read.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - I am unsure that anyone on here would refer to themselves as 'champions of homosexuality' - are you willing to advise is to whom you refer?

//Can anybody on AB overcome the hurdle of honest straight talking and may be admit that their parents/grand parents did not approve, promote, discuss or condone homosexuality?//

I am not sure I have any 'hurdle' to overcome when it comes to straight talking (!) - but for the record, my father was a vehement homophobe.

//So what might our progressive liberal grandchildren think of us.Will we be condemned by them for our intolerance to paedophiles, just because it was made legal or will some stick to the views of their forbears as I, like it or not,have done?//

Are you for real? Do you really believe that any politician would ever be in a position of power sufficient to have paedophilia legalised? If you are simply hypothesising, then you have chosen a deeply contentious and unpleasant subject with which to do it. Why not steer yourself to safer ground - let's ponder a government so right-wing that it returns to gassing Jews, or permits bear-baiting in the streets ...

Come on, this is getting nowhere apart from you attempting to defend yourself from criticism, and then instantly setting yourself up for more.

If you are simply arguing for argument's sake, then you fail to make that clear.

You clearly appear undistanced from your insistence on your right to proffer your bizarre theories which, as you correctly point out, is your right, but then you must accept the equal right of other posters to call you out for some of your odious pronouncements, and stop bleating about it!

[naomi24]

retrocop, this is all becoming very confused. Could you please tell me, in as few words as possible, precisely why you appear to link homosexuality with paedophilia?

[douglas9401]

You see, this is what happens when folk overstep the mark and don't have the brains or good grace to admit it and retract then move on.

[joggerjayne]

// As my mother used to say - it's like trying to put a blancmange into an envelope //

I have to try that later. Curiosity is getting the better of me.