Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pegida-uk-hundreds-attend-birmingham-central-mosque-opposition-tommy-robinsons-anti-islam-march-1542279

[Khandro]

Gromit; //Absolute rubbish. Tommy Robinson did not instigate any lines of inquiry in relation to Asian grooming gangs. In every instance, the police were already on the case, and in most cases crown court trials were underway.//

The above video of Robinson stating how female children as young as nine were being abused and raped by Asian men was made as long ago as May 2012 and it wasn't the first time he broached this subject. Please give some examples of police arrests and court trials of grooming which were "underway" at that time.

If you can't, please put a sock in it!

[andy-hughes]

Svejk - //Just the attitude that led to the perverts carrying on their merry way for many years unmolested, andy. //

Do you mean that people seeing Griffin et al as opportunist racist agitators meant that the same people were blinded to what was going on around them?

I don't believe that one precludes the other.

I did not say that Griffin and his racist mob pointing out grooming was a bad thing - I simply referred to his motives for doing so.

Some like to believe he had the interests of society at heart.

I believe he was a bigoted ignorant racist buffoon whose only interests were his own self-aggrandisement and arrogance.

[naomi24]

I find it strange that what are deemed to be ‘right wing groups’ are always condemned as ‘racist’ and yet immigrants who specifically target western females for sexual abuse are not. Why is that?

[andy-hughes]

PiedPiper - //I am off. I am not falling for who wants the last word game again. //

Not sure who you think wants the 'last word' - it's just an exchange of views, that's all.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //I find it strange that what are deemed to be ‘right wing groups’ are always condemned as ‘racist’ and yet immigrants who specifically target western females for sexual abuse are not. Why is that? //

Who says they are not viewed as racists?

I actually believe that the sex attackers seek out European women because they are available on the streets, as much as because they are from a different ethnic group.

But if evidence emerges that they pick on white women simply because they are white, then of course that is racism, and is to be condemned in exactly the same way, and to the same degree, and for the same reasons, as the odious right-wingers.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes //Who says they are not viewed as racists?//

I’ve never seen anyone here who condemns ‘far right’ groups as racist condemn these men similarly.

//But if evidence emerges that they pick on white women simply because they are white//

Their reasons extend to skin colour and beyond. Look at New Year’s Eve in Cologne and in other cities around Europe. How much evidence do you need?

[retrocop]

//I actually believe that the sex attackers seek out European women because they are available on the streets, //

Prime example of Sharia Law working for them. Who in their right mind would support that if it meant white women were raped because they were conveniently on the street going about their business???
Certainly Tommy Robinson and his followers do not agree with it!!

[naomi24]

//I actually believe that the sex attackers seek out European women because they are available on the streets, //

The western women who were attacked on New Year’s Eve were out on the streets – but that isn’t an invitation to sexually abuse them.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //The western women who were attacked on New Year’s Eve were out on the streets – but that isn’t an invitation to sexually abuse them. //

Thanks. I never thought of it that way.

[viv41]

Robinson and Griffin are trying to preserve OUR CULTURE and for this reason alone, I support them. I do not want my son going to school surrounded by hijab wearers where there are more muslims than our kids. If that makes ME a racist in some folks eyes - tough !!!

[viv41]

Bye Pied, don't blame you .....

[andy-hughes]

viv41 - //Robinson and Griffin are trying to preserve OUR CULTURE and for this reason alone, I support them. I do not want my son going to school surrounded by hijab wearers where there are more muslims than our kids. If that makes ME a racist in some folks eyes - tough !!! //

Let's hope your son escapes the worst of your narrow views - judging people of their dress and faith first - and it appears - last.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, you're welcome.

[viv41]

Proud of my 'narrow views' andy, proud of them. Stand by what I said ALWAYS !

[andy-hughes]

viv41 - // Proud of my 'narrow views' andy, proud of them. Stand by what I said ALWAYS ! //

Ok ... calm down ...!

[ummmm]

I can't believe you consider that a slur!