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What Do These 'rabble-Rousers' Hope To Achieve?
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/// The impression given was that you had experience of the discrimination black folk go through whereas in fact you were asserting your already established rights. Those that had fought to sit on a bus had been handcuffed, had been arrested and had been thrown in gaol. ///
Complete twaddle.
How many more times have we to go down this path?
The secret lies in your usage of the words "The impression given was that".
I cannot in any way be held responsible for any impressions that you say I have given, those impressions are merely formed in your own confused mind.
Complete twaddle.
How many more times have we to go down this path?
The secret lies in your usage of the words "The impression given was that".
I cannot in any way be held responsible for any impressions that you say I have given, those impressions are merely formed in your own confused mind.
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Zacs-Master
/// AOG, there's no speculation regarding your refusal to answer the simple question; do you believe black people have equal status with white people in the US? ///
Why should I be forced to answer any question put before me.
But if that is all that is worrying you, I will answer it.
"I don't know", satisfied?
Now answer me this "Has a black person the same right to become President as a white person"?
/// AOG, there's no speculation regarding your refusal to answer the simple question; do you believe black people have equal status with white people in the US? ///
Why should I be forced to answer any question put before me.
But if that is all that is worrying you, I will answer it.
"I don't know", satisfied?
Now answer me this "Has a black person the same right to become President as a white person"?
AOG
This is what happened.
You posted this:
/// So speaks a man who has never had to fight for the right to sit where he wanted to on a bus, or drink from a water fountain, or rent a
house. ///
You are wrong, I have done all three.
When you wrote "I've done all three, you unwittingly referred to the driving verb which was 'fought for'.
Perhaps you meant that you have previously drank from a water fountain, rode on a bus and rented a house.
But that makes little sense in the context of this discussion.
Do you see why some people took it to mean that you'd faced the same sort of discrimination that black Americans have due to segregation?
This is what happened.
You posted this:
/// So speaks a man who has never had to fight for the right to sit where he wanted to on a bus, or drink from a water fountain, or rent a
house. ///
You are wrong, I have done all three.
When you wrote "I've done all three, you unwittingly referred to the driving verb which was 'fought for'.
Perhaps you meant that you have previously drank from a water fountain, rode on a bus and rented a house.
But that makes little sense in the context of this discussion.
Do you see why some people took it to mean that you'd faced the same sort of discrimination that black Americans have due to segregation?
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divebuddy
Again - I think we need to establish protocols when looking a crime stats. It makes little sense to look at figures based on race, and race alone. The only people who do this do so because if you take into account poverty, education, unemployment and housing - it gets rather more complicated.
Tell you what - if you think about a state such as Utah which is overwhelmingly white - do the crime stats suggest that offenders are from predominantly economically disadvantaged backgrounds?
If so, is it not reasonable to extrapolate that and conclude that poverty, lack of decent education etc is a governing driver behind the propensity to commit crimes?
If you're going to look at one statistic, why is it race?
Why not look at the number of ex-services personnel who are incarcerated (both in the US and UK)? Did you realise that their numbers too, are way out of proportion with the general population?
Again - I think we need to establish protocols when looking a crime stats. It makes little sense to look at figures based on race, and race alone. The only people who do this do so because if you take into account poverty, education, unemployment and housing - it gets rather more complicated.
Tell you what - if you think about a state such as Utah which is overwhelmingly white - do the crime stats suggest that offenders are from predominantly economically disadvantaged backgrounds?
If so, is it not reasonable to extrapolate that and conclude that poverty, lack of decent education etc is a governing driver behind the propensity to commit crimes?
If you're going to look at one statistic, why is it race?
Why not look at the number of ex-services personnel who are incarcerated (both in the US and UK)? Did you realise that their numbers too, are way out of proportion with the general population?
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