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Could This Rapid Rise In Attacks On Lgbt People Be Attributed To The Rise In Foreign Cultures Into This Country?

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anotheoldgit | 09:16 Sat 09th Sep 2017 | News
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Well seeing that AOG didn't write the news article merely asked the question, I don't know why he is being attacked .There are numerous countries in the world that are blaming immigrants for the rise in attacks on LGBT people so maybe the answer is yes.
10:11 Tue 12th Sep 2017
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jackthehat

Yes, and I do wish you would cease moving the goal posts.
chortle....chortle.... :o(
Arguing with AOG:

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jim360

Uncontrolled immigration has had a vast effect on this country, therefore it must come into consideration and therefore cannot be ruled out for any changes that we see now taking place.

Be it crime, housing, NHS, transport, education and in this case 'gay bashing'.
Do you have any stats to support your assertion?
AOG

The rapid rise in attacks on LGBT people might be attributed to an increase in foreign cultures, but it's unlikely, because the figures don't correlate.

According to Migraton Watch, the biggest rise migration figures happened between 1997 and 2004. We would need figures on attacks during that period to determine whether there was a casual link.

But even then, it remains doubtful that broad statistics would prove a link between the two figures. The only way to prove the link would be to study the profile of each attacker.

Others have posited that people who are attacked are more likely to report such crimes now, because the police take them much more seriously than they did in the past. That could be a contributing factor.

And it's also true that the Far Right are not averse to stirring up trouble for LGBT people when they feel the 'need' arises. Let's not forget what Nick Griffin did...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/oct/18/bnp-nick-griffin-address-gay-couple
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As a self confessed homosexual, why do you continue to support the Islamic faith who have a proven track record of not only their abuse but also their sadistic slaughter of homosexuals.

Had these acts been carried out in the name of the Far-Right or even the Christian religion, you and others like you would be screaming for something to be done.
AOG

You're talking about me, when I was talking about the point you raised. It's better to stay on track with these threads, because otherwise it just gets into a pointless slanging match.

You asked whether these attacks were linked to a rise in foreign cultures. I've tried to answer your question.

Grow up.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-same-sex-marriage-uk-first-walsall-west-midlands-islam-homosexual-jahed-choudhury-sean-rogan-a7835036.html

/// Mr Choudhury, 24, told the Express and Star he felt like the “black sheep” of his Bangladeshi Muslim family, being bullied at school, attacked by other Muslims and banned from his local
mosque. ///
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sp1814

Don't be so rude to your elders.

Hit a raw nerve did I?

One can always tell when a person has lost their argument, they start being rude.
No.
AOG

You're not addressing what I have put forward.

You've asked this:

"Could This Rapid Rise In Attacks On Lgbt People Be Attributed To The Rise In Foreign Cultures Into This Country?"

I gave some ideas and you ignored them completely to ask why I continue to support the Islamic faith.

That's a very obvious change of subject.

Getting back to the point you've raised - do you think that we first need to determine whether the attacks are actually from those who are from a foreign culture?

What do you think about the idea that LGBT people might actually be reporting crimes more? That would be a huge influence on numbers.

Do you think that might be a contributing factor?



AOG

You wrote:

//Don't be so rude to your elders.

Hit a raw nerve did I?

One can always tell when a person has lost their argument, they start being rude.//

No - I'm trying to protect you from yourself. You're giving your detractors evidence of your agenda which they can throw back in your face.

It's impossible to lose an argument, when the person you're debating with changes tack halfway through. It means that the original argument is lost, due to goalposts being changed.
Again, ANOTHEOLDGIT, do you have any stats to back up your claim?
Yes AOG it is all down to migrants !!
// Is every thing attributed to foreigners AOG?//

including the Duchess of Cambridge's hyper emesis ? yes of course is the answer.

and they arent assumptions - they are conclusions ( sorry a bit techinical that)

and finally Jim360 - are you sure you dont want to retrain in Law?
your point is absolutely correct
rape classically used to be underreported 2% were reported and 98% unrecorded and SO.... you can double the 2% to 4% ( that is a 100% rise) just by and advertising campaign and without any underlying rise whatsoever.

do we know that the ethnic background of the people committing this LGBT genocide ? I have to say unlike Reg Poncey in the article - if someone called be a deaf blind old poofta ( and I heard them ) I dont think I could be arrissed to take out my photocamera and point it somewhere near them and press "record"
Personal preference obvioiusly
It appears that AOG is unwilling to accept any sort of evidence, from any source, unless it chimes with his own opinion....
AOG - //Could This Rapid Rise In Attacks On Lgbt People Be Attributed To The Rise In Foreign Cultures Into This Country?//

Absolutely it could.

It could also be attributed to climate change if you want - anything can be 'attributed' to anything if you have an agenda to push.
Just home from a smashing day in Bath.

AOG....is there nothing that happens in Britain today, that you wouldn't attribute to immigration ?
tray troo

an attribution could be valid or not

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