Theresa May: We Risk Ending Up With No Brexit At All

[naomi24]

//The prime minister has issued a stark warning to MPs that failure to back her plan for Brexit would risk the UK not leaving the EU at all.//

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-back-my-chequers-plan-or-brexit-wont-happen-11437460

A stark warning? One could be forgiven for thinking she’s worried about flouting the democratic will of the people. Nigel Farage, speaking on ‘The Wright Stuff’ a couple of days ago, said that delaying tactics could be employed until the eleventh hour when Article 50 would be suspended. Is the real end plan coming to fruition? I think so.

[Gromit]

Rockrose

Tora ofter uses obscure aconyms, childish names and rhyming slang in his posts.

VB stands for Vichy British. Anyone who does not agree with him are painted as collaborators and traitors.

[Rockrose]

OK Thank you for the explanation.

[Gromit]

TTT,
Nah, it’s stupid.

[ToraToraTora]

that's probably what the Vichy French said too gromit.

[Kromovaracun]

//If all the remain voters had shut up. Had not had their demos.//

Thanks for explaining it cassa.

I see the heart of this complaint is that hardline Brexiters just want everyone who disagrees with them to shut up.

[dannyk13]

Might be a better idea if everybody shut up.At the moment it is just speculation followed by more speculation.

[Kromovaracun]

I didm't realise btw that the success of this whole project was so fragile that it would be plunged into doom by people disagreeing with it.

Kind of it makes it look like an even sillier decision tbh.

[cassa333]

Why bother protesting? Why bother lobbying your MP?

Why?

Because it has an effect. It bolsters the MPs resolve and does have an effect.

Otherwise shut up and don’t give your opinions!

Look at the old age care proposals and inheritance tax to name but two. Backtracked and unturned because of public opinion. That happens with lots of things and Brexit is no different.

Do you really think people have no say or effect? Is that the same mentality that says the UK is not capable of stepping back into the world?

[gulliver1]

Why doesn't Theresa just stand outside No 10, call for a General Election, and let the public decide, thats her only best way out. Then she can watch the frightened look on the faces of all her disloyal Mps. go for it Theresa.

[Jackdaw33]

It was rumoured last week that the 1922 Committee had close to the 48 signatures needed to launch a leadership challenge. I would ssume they have passed that number now. If so, let's hope they act on it. This is the first time I have called for the removal of a Tory leader since the days of Heath.

[Kromovaracun]

The biggest protest in British history was by Stop The War coalition in 2003.

How'd that turn out?

People have the right to protest, cassa. If your beloved Brexit was so fragile that it could be completely undermined by a few protests then you were sold a turkey by the Vote Leave charlatans.

[Gromit]

// Look at the old age care proposals and inheritance tax to name but two. Backtracked and unturned because of public opinion. //

Public opinion at the ballot box, not chatter. Both were in the Conservative manifesto and were the reason the Conservatives lost its majority. If the Publuc had given the Conservatives a thumping majority, there would have been no u-turns on those two issues.

[cassa333]

For goodness sake that people are allowed to protests isn’t in question.

I do wish you would read the whole of what I wrote instead of just the bits you want to fling back thinking your being bright.

My point is that if protesting has no effect don’t bother.

But it does have an effect so to say Remaining remoaners have no effect is not true.

Either there is no point protesting or there is. You can’t have it both ways.

[Kromovaracun]

You can't insist that you believe in the right to protest and then whinge when people do it. Especially regarding the biggest political issue of the day.

I did read your whole post, I don't think the rest of it modifies my response and I dislike copy-pasting walls of text.

[Gromit]

Protesting is not to done to change Government policy. It is a public display of disagreeing with that policy.
If all it takes is a demonstration and the Government change tack, why aren’t the Brexiters holding mass rallies every weekend.

[naomi24]

Remainers can protest all they like, but the bottom line is that in order that their aims might be achieved, they will abandon and are abandoning the fundamental principle upon which our society is founded – democracy.

[cassa333]

So you are purposely not taking any notice of context then.

You are being deliberately contrary to make a point that isn’t there.

Without protest the uturns I suggested earlier would not have happened. Otherwise the government would have carried on implementing them. The fact the politicians took that protest on board and unturned is important.

If you truly can’t see that then there is no hope of you understanding anything is there?

[naomi24]

gulliver, //Why doesn't Theresa just stand outside No 10, call for a General Election, and let the public decide,//

The public did decide ... but that aside, if your lot were running the show the result would be the same. Disingenuous the lot of them.

[youngmafbog]

"If all it takes is a demonstration and the Government change tack, why aren’t the Brexiters holding mass rallies every weekend."

Treason May hasn't changed tack, to remain in the EU has always beeb her aim.

Brexiters cant go on mass rallies, they have to work and have families to look after plus many and cant afford to travel. They are not on the rock and roll and funded to rallies or funded by the Bank of Mum and dad as many of these "protesters" are.

One of the big problems is that protesters are often given far more air time than they deserve. Often pitutrues shown by biases media try and show bigger numbers than they are butr even more importantly fail to mention that even 10 thousand protesters are less than 0.00015 of the population.