I Don't Shake Hands, I'm A Muslim.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6067331/Swedish-Muslim-woman-refused-handshake-job-interview-wins-discrimination-case.html

That's okay, here's £3,000 for offending you.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I missed the "religious observance trumps social mores" post.

That's the "defence" - under the 2nd Amendment - of the doctors in Minnesota(I think?) charged with performing FGM.

[Peter Pedant]

I missed the "religious observance trumps social mores" post.

well it doesnt in the UK - FGM is against the statute law - altho proving it since clearly the parents are compliant, is difficult

[vetuste_ennemi]

Still, if attacking FGM offends some people and threatens "social cohesion" then we should stop attacking it, isn't that the logic?

Mind you, there are quite a few people like me who are offended by savages who mutilate their daughters. Does our "offence" matter?

[vetuste_ennemi]

//altho proving it [FGM} since clearly the parents are compliant, is difficult//

Spoken by Common (or is that "compromised"?) Purpose's star graduate.

[naomi24]

Sadiq Khan says attacking it is a hate crime. Yes, as andy-hughes says, religious observance trumps social mores.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Same argument as kept gang rape in Rotherham etc etc under wraps for twenty years.

[naomi24]

Yes indeed - and so it continues.

[andy-hughes]

vetuste - // I missed the "religious observance trumps social mores" post.

That's the "defence" - under the 2nd Amendment - of the doctors in Minnesota(I think?) charged with performing FGM. //

Do you seriously think there is a parallel between my comment and defending FGM?

Seriously???

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, which bits of religious observance do you think trumps social mores?

[ladybirder]

Think I'll make another cup of cocoa.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // andy-hughes, which bits of religious observance do you think trumps social mores? //

I think you know, but if you insist on playing devil's advocate, I will spell it out for you -

I am happy for someone to trump social mores with their faith by not shaking hands.

I am unhappy for someone to trump social mores by mutilating a child.

Clear enough for you?

[Mamyalynne]

Andy for goodness sake - take no gaum just accept you're
a Doctor from Minnesota and let them carry on all night.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Same argument [difficult/impossible to prove] as kept gang rape in Rotherham etc etc under wraps for twenty years//

I tell a lie. The only standard of proof required to convict someone having sex with a minor is the child's birth certificate.

(W. H. Stead "scandal" -1880s? - and the subsequent closing of a common defence by raising the legal of consent from twelve to sixteen. But Common Purpose knows all that, doesn't he?

[sanmac]

"Social mores" sounds much more genteel than "cultural practices" doesn't?

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //Clear enough for you? //

No. Your defence of religious observance doesn't stop there so that's a teeny weeny bit disingenuous....

Pantomime time again. ;o)

[Spicerack]

Religious observance, social mores, customs.
How's a poor boy to know?
I expect when you get off the plane in Riyadh, you're given a card with all the do's & don't's printed on it.
Why can't we just print and distribute enough said cards for everyone in the UK.
Possibly prosecute anyone who's caught not carrying one so there's no excuses.

[Khandro]

SR ; Perhaps something along the lines of, 'Instructions for American Servicemen in Britain, 1942' (Facsimile version available on Amazon)

In 1942, the United States War Department distributed a handbook to American servicemen that advised them on the peculiarities of the "British, their country, and their ways."

It may require some serious updates though. :0)

[Khandro]

I remember it advises them against using the word "bloody" as it is "the strongest swear word the Brits have" !

[douglas9401]

Ah, colonials, bless them.