A Longer Sentence Than I Expected

[youngmafbog]

But for this utter savage it should be the rope or if we cannot have that full life, no parole ever.

Even after 27 years he will be able to live a life after raping and murdering this poor six year old, lets just hope the hand wringers have been expunged from any decision making by then.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6833939/Alesha-MacPhails-parents-arrive-court-Aaron-Campbell-sentencing.html

[spathiphyllum]

No one, i was just openly thinking

[andy-hughes]

pixie - // If it's legal, it isn't a crime, Andy... I have to agree with Naomi here. No need for torture and revenge, just get rid. I never used to agree with capital punishment, but in a few certain cases, it does seem the only civilised thing to do. //

You are right, and I am merely chain-pulling for my own amusement here.

I don't expect to change people's perception to mine, anymore than they would expect me to change to theirs.

But let's for a moment consider just who is to carry out the executions.

It is the natural stance of the outrageously self-righteous to claim that they would be at the front of the queue if the executioner's post became vacant, but I seriously doubt it.

I believe that to take another human's life outwith mental disturbance is a seriously difficult thing to do - but those who advocate such action would need to be able to carry out the task, or else be a hypocrite who hands on the task to another.

Merely a viewpoint, as I say, I am not looking to change viewpoints here, or indeed to have mine changed.

[sanmac]

As we all know, we can pick and choose the meaning or definition of a word in order to suit our agenda. Here is another definition of 'murder': "Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse."

[pixie374]

I could, seriously, if I knew what they had done. Doctors can and do... There are all sorts of situations, from euthanasia, assisted suicide, abortions, switching off life support... to eating meat. None of them murder, it's all in the context.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, "Outrageously self-righteous" is deliberately emotive and is not a fair or rational assessment of people you don't know.

[spathiphyllum]

If you can't conform to society's standards then why should they apply to you?

[retrocop]

I am sure my parents and those of Mr Hughes would not consider themselves members of an uncivilised society when hanging was a punisment.
Indeed if they were alive today I am sure they would consider todays society undoubtably uncivilised with regard to two fatal stabbings and more each day that was not the norm in their day and capital punisment was an option.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // andy-hughes, "Outrageously self-righteous" is deliberately emotive and is not a fair or rational assessment of people you don't know. //

You don't know me, but it doesn't stop your unfair and irrational assessment of my views as 'preaching' does it?

We all react to posts as we see them, you do, I do, everyone does, but while you react as the rest of us, including me, please don't try and take the moral high ground with me over my personal reactions.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // I am sure my parents and those of Mr Hughes would not consider themselves members of an uncivilised society when hanging was a punisment. //

I cannot speak for your parents, obviously, but my father spent the majority of his waking hours being so pompously self-righteous and bigoted that we lived in constant fear of him spontaneously combusting.

It is living in a house with him that has helped inform my personal values and views, being as consciously opposite to his as I can make them.

[hereIam]

I've always been in favour of the death penalty for baby and child murderers. RIP lovely little girl. Some form of justice has been achieved at least.

[andy-hughes]

sanmac - // As we all know, we can pick and choose the meaning or definition of a word in order to suit our agenda. Here is another definition of 'murder': "Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse." //

You are absolutely right, and anyone debating any point will use the definition that chimes the most with their viewpoint - I do, and I make no apology for doing so.

[hereIam]

'pompously self-righteous' Mmmm who does that remind me of ?

[Pete65]

If Campbell had committed his crimes before the death penalty was consigned to history, he would not have hanged.
The death penalty was for people 18 years of age and over.
Campbell is 16 years old.

[retrocop]

AH
You rebel against anything your father supported or agreed with. Hardly a convincing argument against reintroduction of capital punishment because you didn’t like your father’s views. Kind of selfish when you consider the mayhem and murder in your current utopian society

[spathiphyllum]

What an odd direction for the thread to go in. Maybe it could go back to Aaron?

[andy-hughes]

hereIam - // 'pompously self-righteous' Mmmm who does that remind me of ? //

I have no idea, but don't worry, I don't think anyone cares.

[sanmac]

HereIam, at 1641, I for one do not need 3 guesses; or to phone a friend; or to ask the audience. And neither does anyone else.

[retrocop]

He was described in summing up as showing no remorse and nut and gut reports to the judge prior to sentencing disclosed no,nada,negative zilch mental disturbance to account for his crime.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // You rebel against anything your father supported or agreed with. //

Rebel????

Ha ha! I'm sixty-four not sixteen!!!

// Hardly a convincing argument against reintroduction of capital punishment because you didn’t like your father’s views. //


Indeed, which is why it's not the basis of my viewpoint, or my argument.

// Kind of selfish when you consider the mayhem and murder in your current utopian society //

It would be, if my view was solely responsible for the laws and attitudes that govern the society in which we all live - but it doesn't, it's not 'my society' at all.

[retrocop]

Sanmac
When do I collect my £million?