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Uk National Debt Over £2 Trillion
More than 100% of GDP.
When Labour left office in 2010 the National Debt was less than £1 Trillion, so the Tories have managed to double it. Will the electorate ever forgive the Conservatives again for trouncing the economy?
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When Labour left office in 2010 the National Debt was less than £1 Trillion, so the Tories have managed to double it. Will the electorate ever forgive the Conservatives again for trouncing the economy?
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Just in case you were planning on it, please don't point to the fact that about 40,000-60,000 have died as a result of the Government taking action, when the prediction that you are calling "wrong" was made based on the Government taking no action at all. It shouldn't be difficult to see the fallacy in that argument.
The Ferguson paper predicted:
1. Something in the region of 500,000 deaths over a two-year period (another point worth noting, then: we've had less than six months of this!) if no action was taken;
2. Something in the region of 50,000-120,000 deaths in that same period assuming social distancing, home quarantine etc;
We are very clearly in the second scenario. I don't think there's a case for calling the prediction "very wrong" -- not based on what has actually happened, at any rate.
The Ferguson paper predicted:
1. Something in the region of 500,000 deaths over a two-year period (another point worth noting, then: we've had less than six months of this!) if no action was taken;
2. Something in the region of 50,000-120,000 deaths in that same period assuming social distancing, home quarantine etc;
We are very clearly in the second scenario. I don't think there's a case for calling the prediction "very wrong" -- not based on what has actually happened, at any rate.
I know it's a novel concept around these parts, but it's usually a good idea to point to evidence as justification of your position. As I say, if you are basing your criticism of Ferguson's paper primarily on the fact that around 50,000 have died in six months, and that 50,000 is less than 500,000, then you need to read the paper again and understand its numbers and scenarios more clearly.
Also -- Science is complicated. Epidemiology is complicated. And, fir that matter, life is complicated. Explaining its intricacies isn't "ducking and diving", or "going round the houses". It's a necessity.
If the prediction was "wrong", you should explain why it was wrong, or why you think it was at least, and we can proceed from there.
If the prediction was "wrong", you should explain why it was wrong, or why you think it was at least, and we can proceed from there.
Ferguson, in coming up with the worst case figures, actually said:
“We use the latest estimates of severity to show that policy strategies which aim to mitigate the epidemic might halve deaths and reduce peak healthcare demand by two-thirds, but that this will not be enough to prevent health systems being overwhelmed. More intensive, and socially disruptive interventions will therefore be required to suppress transmission to low levels. It is likely such measures – most notably, large scale social distancing – will need to be in place for many months, perhaps until a vaccine becomes available.”
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“We use the latest estimates of severity to show that policy strategies which aim to mitigate the epidemic might halve deaths and reduce peak healthcare demand by two-thirds, but that this will not be enough to prevent health systems being overwhelmed. More intensive, and socially disruptive interventions will therefore be required to suppress transmission to low levels. It is likely such measures – most notably, large scale social distancing – will need to be in place for many months, perhaps until a vaccine becomes available.”
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Debt in the EUSSR as a % of Gdp.
Greece 176%, Italy 133%, Spain 103%, Portugal 129%, Ireland 107%, Belgium 106%, Cyprus 109%. France 96% and rising as are all the debt levels in the EU countries......Except Germany. Whose debt level is at 71% of Gdp and falling fast as it hoover up the other economies via the debt payments being made. Near trick to pull off.
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Greece 176%, Italy 133%, Spain 103%, Portugal 129%, Ireland 107%, Belgium 106%, Cyprus 109%. France 96% and rising as are all the debt levels in the EU countries......Except Germany. Whose debt level is at 71% of Gdp and falling fast as it hoover up the other economies via the debt payments being made. Near trick to pull off.
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The next problem that Johnson can see coming, but has failed to do anything about is "Mass Unemployment" . After this exam cock up , etc and all the other mistakes this Clown government have made, and coming towards the end of furlough payments . HE knows that unemployment is going to hit the UK like a sledge hammer. with a good chance it will reach Three and a half million.
Unemployment figures even worse than back in the days of Thatcher. She probably could not see it coming but this clown can.
Unemployment figures even worse than back in the days of Thatcher. She probably could not see it coming but this clown can.
