Johnson.

[gulliver1]

Boris is waiting for US Election result before making his decision on,
Deal or no deal with E/U.
No Balls Johnson then.

[jim360]

What, in anything I've said, has anything to do with the "Remainer route"? The idea of a huge US trade deal has been a Brexiteer objective since before the Referendum.

[Mozz71]

If there's one thing you have to know about me Naomi, is that I think Andy can stuff the so rule where only he thinks the sun shines.

[Mozz71]

Jim, it really isn't worth wasting your breath. Naomi has her arrogance dial turned up to 11 tonight. I'm off to bed, 'night mate.

[ichkeria]

If that really is what he is doing he is an even bigger fool than we thought.
I note that this idea comes from the EU side.
I’ve never bought into this idea that somehow Johnson is close to, or even believes he is close to, Trump politically.
“Spectacularly ignorant and unfit for office” is how he once described Trump, and I can’t imagine anything that’s happened since can have changed this, despite all the understandable ego-massaging flattery that’s come in recent times.
This seems like a misconception on the European side, and indeed in the Democrat side.
If it isn’t, we’re in trouble!

[Old_Geezer]

I don't see an issue whether one waits or not. One should be more concerned of reports that he and Frost have made further unstipulated concessions at the negotiations when we seemed already down to our red lines and waiting for the EU to make their concessions to catch us up. One hopes these reports are remainer wishful thinking, or at least not what they seem.

[ichkeria]

Regardless of anything else, it’s tragic and ridiculous that a group of civilised nations, with do much in common, should be locked in this ridiculous stand off.
I know who I’m blaming at base for the fact that this situation has arisen, but it’s actually now irrelevant to dwell on that.

[Mozz71]

//“Spectacularly ignorant and unfit for office” is how he once described Trump, and I can’t imagine anything that’s happened since can have changed this//

Did he really say that Ichy? It seems a surprising accurate statement to have come from Boris.

[ichkeria]

He did indeed.
Because Johnson may match Trump in the latter respect (for different reasons) but in all other respects he’s most things Trump isn’t.

[Mozz71]

What I'd say in defence of Boris, is that if you look at the cabinet, there are far worse candidates to be PM that him.

[Old_Geezer]

I think different quotes are getting mixed up. Nothing spectacular about that. https://theintercept.com/2019/07/23/boris-johnson-donald-trump-unfit/

[ichkeria]

“ What I'd say in defence of Boris, is that if you look at the cabinet, there are far worse candidates to be PM that him”

Lol: why do you think they’re in the Cabinet? :-)

[Sunk]

It would be wise for the British Government to know who it will be negotiating with in the US before deciding our next step.

It would be unwise to think a Trump win will be good for the UK. Trump has a habit of going back on pledges, and the UK would be left high and dry. And ‘No deal’ for whatever reason will be a disaster for the UK business.

[ichkeria]

Yes it might indeed make sense for the UK to wait for the election result (bearing in mind the result might in theory not necessarily be known on Nov 4, though a landslide looks on the cards).
And bearing in mind also Trump is in situ until late January anyway)
It’s the notion that Trump being re-elected means the Brexit stars align that’s nonsensical

[jim360]

Yes, the bit about "stars aligning" etc is... well, no. But the bit about waiting, at least to an extent, isn't unreasonable.

[ichkeria]

I think the democrats have a misunderstanding about Johnson.
After all he backed Obama over McCain back in 2008.
Doubtless forgotten now, but the memory would no doubt be revived if need be.

[theshedman]

Note he who put the thread on hasn't commented on it once. It is just another of his threads to have a dig at Boris.

[ChillDoubt]

It'll be even more of a rumour with you and Gulliver on the case, Jim.
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LOL

[gulliver1]

10.37 Shedman.Ever thought of taking up Bungee Jumping as a hobby. IT's ever so relaxing , and there's no strings attached.

[ichkeria]

It’s all very tenuous this: one person’s opinion of what the EU may be thinking Johnson may be doing what he appears to be doing.

[dannyk13]

A sensible thing te wants to make sure that we have a trade deal and Biden has stated that he won't be offer one.