Johnson.

[gulliver1]

Boris is waiting for US Election result before making his decision on,
Deal or no deal with E/U.
No Balls Johnson then.

[dannyk13]

Ich//It’s quite possible the UK could rejoin the EU eventually.//
Wishful thinking on your part?

[ichkeria]

I see now that the latest row is over e-gates at EU airports.
We want to still be able to use them despite no longer being in the EU.
But surely this is one of the consequences of wanting an end to “free movement”
The cake is either eaten or had, unfortunately

[ichkeria]

I’m just saying never say never. It’s rather a dangerous approach

[naomi24]

//We want to still be able to use them despite no longer being in the EU.//

As I understand it we’ve said that EU citizens will still be able to use e-gates at our airports. The EU doesn’t want to reciprocate. Hardly a ‘free movement’ issue. More of a ‘Do travellers show their passports to a human being or to a machine?’ No cake involved. Just the EU spitting its dummy out….. but no surprise there.

[weecalf]

Could be waiting to see who wins strictly come dancing as Mr Cummings has not told boris yet what to do .

[New Judge]

Most airports outside the EU have separate entry facilities for their own citizens. I'm looking forward to seeing that introduced at Gatwick and Heathrow (other airports are available). Would provide a little advantage over the hordes of foreign Johnnies clamouring to arrive for a visit to Madame Tussauds and the Tower of London.

//Put bluntly, the only people who seriously want talks to end prematurely are those who won't have to bear any responsibility for the consequences.//

There are a few more, Jim. In fact, the boss of any company that does substantial business with the EU, together with hauliers, airlines and others in the transport industry, those in the fishing industry, to name but a few. They have been waiting almost four and a half years for some sort of clarity as to what the future arrangements will be. Here we are, with less than ten weeks to go, and many of them are at the end of their tether. This utter nonsense should have been concluded finally and clearly (one way or the other) many months ago. The problem is many in government - on both sides of the channel - have absolutely no idea what it takes to run a business and are too busy arguing over the price of beetroot to care.

[Old_Geezer]

I think it's rather realistic to say, "Never". Whilst stranger things have happened it's much more likely that the controlling federal dream will have fallen apart, and a proper trading block arisen from the ashes, before a naive later generation opts not to learn from the past and votes to be controlled.

[gulliver1]

When the British Public have had a year of being without , they will be Urging there Mps to bring about rejoining the E/U pretty swift.

[Old_Geezer]

LOL

[dannyk13]

Dream on Gulliver.

[Jackdaw33]

A year of being without what, exactly?

[Old_Geezer]

EU control.

[theshedman]

Gulliver has to have his daily dose of moaning about Boris or he is not happy. By the way gulliver at 11.58 it is not bungee jumping if there are no strings attached it is just called jumping.

[gulliver1]

Can see a flourishing black market next year, and the return of the Spiv.

[dannyk13]

Gulliver //the return of the Spiv.//
Does that mean that you will no longer living abroard?

[gulliver1]

I am just waiting for a vote of no confidence in Dominic Cummings.
Perhaps Boris might like to motion it.

[dannyk13]

Gulliver, not possible to have a vote of no confidence on Cummings he is not the prime minister.Do stop posting rubbish.

[jim360]

I can't help but feel that NJ missed the importance of the word "prematurely" in his post. All the groups he cites clearly want the talks to conclude as soon as possible (and then sooner), but that's not the same as wanting talks to end without a resolution, which is, and always has been, almost universally recognised as the worst of all outcomes. This stands to reason, because it wouldn't have been a "threat" otherwise.

[jim360]

As to whether the UK will rejoin the EU -- well, never say never. But I'd be absolutely staggered if we were back inside the EU before, shall we say, 2035. It would require at the minimum a new generation of politicians and voters to wish to go back on such a decision once made.

[jim360]

I hasten to add that this isn't an expectation that the UK will be back in the EU within 15-20 years, so much as an expectation that the UK certainly won't be back inside before then.