How Much Longer Are People Going To Meekly Roll Over And Accept These Draconian Rules?

[dave50]

The damage being done to our economy is incalculable yet I see people in the street being interviewed on the news saying they accept it and its nessasary and they will comply and some saying it doesn't go far enough. Do these people understand how the economy works? I seriously doubt it. The only people who dare mildly disagree are the business owners of bars and restaurants who are in real danger of having to close down permanently. When the tsunami of unemployed start rolling down the track after furlough is ended, these same people who are calling for the lock down to continue will then be blaming the government for the increase in unemployment. I really do despair.

[bobbinwales]

I think the word bubble is misused., burleyshirley. Some peopel claim to be in several bubble's . A dont think its supposed to include groups of friends.!! But you dont seem to care as you do it anyway. Fair enough, its your risks and theres (and the NHS's)

[diddlydo]

You can't be in several bubbles! If you're a single person you can bubble with one other household only and you can't chop and change.

[ichkeria]

I think people who use responsible common sense should not be castigated or penalised for breaking the letter of the law.
And I’m pretty sure that is what the police and the govt think too

[Peter Pedant]

as long as they have telly
and can see what the relevant experiment is going in the Land of the Free - the greatest man on earth is doing nothing and they are dying like flies

Gov Georgia - I love children but I cdnt eat a whole one ...... no no this is the greatest expt on human sacrifice

one of Fauci clever young people: there will be hundreds and thousands of cases and needless avoidable deaths

[allenlondon]

You fool, dave.

How long did people roll over and live under the 'draconian' conditions from 1939 to 1945?

As long as it took.

And the same will apply now. Were there idiots in the UK during the 2nd War who used to wander out during the Blitz, saying "It's all a con!" Probably.


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[ToraToraTora]

LOL Allen, yeah the bombs were probably state sponsored to con them into thinking there was a bad guy across the channel!

[Jackdaw33]

This 'bubble' nonsense has got me beat. How do the authorities know who is in which bubble? How is this policed?

[dannyk13]

Jack //How is this policed?//
It isn't.

[douglas9401]

Pour great leader Diminutava stated when introducing our tiered system which included 'no travel between tiers 3 and four' and the non plague areas. She further stated that police would not be stopping cars to check on the essential business that drivers were about.
Guess what?

The roads are almost as busy as ever.

Muddled messages and wanting to be everybody's pal doesn't work.

It's still half-arsed.

[ichkeria]

Do many adhere to bubbles?
The problem with it is shortly after they were introduced a lot of the restrictions were relaxed and it’s very difficult to go back.

[grumpy01]

If this relaxation over Christmas brings about,as expected,many more cases and ultimately deaths these four leaders will surely have to consider their position.

[ichkeria]

Well, not really.
By that reasoning anyone who relaxes any rules at any time would have to resign.
I don’t agree with it, but many do

[grumpy01]

They can’t keep banging the drum of hands,face,space on one hand and then allow 2 households from say Necastle to visit Mother in Cornwall.It’s bound to end in disaster.

[grumpy01]

*Newcastle*

[cashier]

If they attribute all the deaths that happen in that five day period, and the month after, to covid, then the figures will be high. If they put down the real cause of death, cancer, heart attack, traffic accident then they will be more realistic. There might be a lot of death certificates with covid related on them, but not all were covid connected.

[jim360]

It's difficult because it is true that, frankly, the Government has messed up. There is, for example, a pretty uncontroversial link between the decision to have no meaningful restrictions during the period when schools and Universities were re-opening, and the subsequent increase in infections. Clear, I say, because what else do you expect is going to happen when the disease was still extant, albeit at low levels, but suddenly several million people were moving around the country and coming into contact with large groups for the first time in months? That was a disaster, and the deaths in this second wave have followed as a consequence.

But even though this was foreseeable, and should have been foreseen, I am not sure how preventable it was. Should students have been told, in effect, to stay at home and conduct all learning online? From the perspective purely of Covid control, absolutely, but towns that rely to a large extent on the Student population for economic activity would have suffered, to say nothing of the mental health toll on those who, at least personally, tend to have low risks from Covid anyway.

I think Professor Whitty may have been partially motivated by political considerations when he said this, but he had a point when he said, in effect, that all possible approaches to the health crisis were bad. The British are owed apologies and contrition all the same, but I don't see what is served by any resignations.

It also is clearly relevant that the entire Western World has seen cases and death tolls rise significantly over the last month. Sometimes that's down to incompetence or lack of interest in even trying to solve the problem, other times it's because preventative measures came too late; while this doesn't excuse the UK's failures, they are far from unique.

[ichkeria]

I can’t see the transport system coping anyway :-)
Hands and face are still in I guess, but space is out for a few days.

[ichkeria]

A few years back we’d probably all have got snowed in and no one would have been able to go anywhere

[iluvmargie]

OMG the scaremongering and doom and gloom merchants are still rife on here I see!! What WILL you all have to moan about when all this is over?? Do what you want, just as I will do exactly what I want.

[jourdain2]

It would appear that for some insane reason East Riding is in Tier 3. They are calling us The Humber and lumping us in with Hull - an hour away. Otherwise virtually all cases are in Bridlington & Beverley, with Driffield a poor third. Most of the area is made up of small villages. Hull is a totally separate entity.

Well, we live very close to the border with N. Yorks., in a sort of promontory. If I want to go to the nearest shop it's N. Yorks., as is Post Office etc., etc. - so that's where I will go, despite driving out of my area, and I have no intention of driving further so I can shop in places with higher concentrations of virus. Total idiocy and hammer to crack a nut approach. The Tories will pay for this cack-handedness.