Why Is India Falsifying Death Figures?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/india-crematoriums-underreporting-bodies-as-suspicion-grows-over-true-number-of-coronavirus-deaths-12288828
Just seen the report on Sky news. They asked one crematorium how many deaths in the last 24 hours and they responded with a number that was less than they had seen brought in in the last hour. They later questioned another set of figures and were told by the officials that they had been ordered from above to quote lesser figures. So what's going on? Gawd knows what the true figure is.

[tamborine]

Theres no way of identifying all indians; no NI, health cards, lots without passports, driving licence or adresses.

Time they stopped cremating on wood fires, creating low level smoke - any wonder thay cant breathe.

[emmie]

isn't there some religious law about cremation in India....

[tamborine]

If there is Emmie, its overlooked by indians living in UK

[emmie]

that they have to be cremated at a certain time after death, and with covid rampant, the sooner the better for want of a better way to put it.
a priest should be present, but i guess that may not be possible as there are so many being cremated. and they can't breathe because that is part of covid, its why they need oxygen. not because of these family fires for their loved ones.

[piggynose]

09.53 sorry spicerack i couldn't resist,only did it to lighten such a heavy thread.

[emmie]

the crematoriums are all busy, what do you suppose they should do with their loved ones.

[woofgang]

PP
"Whitty making a titty of himself ( in the best parsible taste) saying we would get away with 20 000 dead. and here we are with 126 000 and rising ( six fold error) "

It was Sir Patrick Vallance and he said that it would be a good outcome if it could be done. https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/uks-chief-scientific-adviser-says-20000-coronavirus-deaths-would-be-good-outcome

[Peter Pedant]

oops sozza dementia moment there

BUT - no, AND the point remains ( mutatis mtuandis = all the same) that the estimate was in error sixfold and it was neither negligent nor intentional but er still very very 'out' - erroneous ++

vantam giving them hell this pm 1730

[woofgang]

but he was right, it would have been an excellent outcome.....sadly it didn't happen.

[William51]

My guess is that the figures are a guesstimate. The people probably do not know the true figures.

[tiggerblue10]

To be honest the India death rates are 100 times more believable than the Chinese figures and so are the Russian figures.

[Spicerack]

India have plants set up, apparently, capable of churning out millions of doses of vaccine.
Bill Gates, with his big pharma hat on, says they can't have the formula. Need those patents to generate future profits which will fund future research.
Er, I'm not clear about how much big pharma contributed to covid vaccine research. Governments provided the finance and Universities supplied the know-how. (I'm aware of Big Pharma's links with many science departments)
I seem to remember them saying they wouldn't make money from covid jabs beyond their set up costs.

[Spicerack]

In theory if you inoculate the world, you kill covid off.
That wouldn't really suit Bill and his fellow angels of mercy. He wants new strains that require new vaccines to jab you with for life.

[Peter Pedant]

// Bill Gates, with his big pharma hat on, says they can't have the formula. //

the indian serology institute is one of the largest producers of vaccine

sorry to have a fact spoil a good conspiracy theory

[Peter Pedant]

but never mind - the is AB so another one will be along soon

[Spicerack]

Try this one for size.
https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/news/bill-gates-says-no-to-sharing-covid-vaccine-formulas-539222.html

[Spicerack]

Got any more 'facts' you'd like to share?

[Stickybottle]

Spicerack
Got any more 'facts' you'd like to share?

To be fair he has added a lot of reasoning and caveats on why he has said no.
It is not a case of a simple no just a case of no not at the moment until it is perfected but nice try at manipulating what he said Spicerack.
Not sure why people try to demonise a man who uses his vast fortune for the advancement and betterment of mankind but everyone has an agenda I suppose

[Spicerack]

Did you feel quite well last night, Sticky?
Not for the first time, Mr Unwin, who thinks any ABer who didn't go to Cambridge is thick and isn't shy about informing us of his opinion, tried to undermine me in his usual supercilious manner.
I put him in his place (the corner with a pointy hat on) in no uncertain manner.
I'd have expected ordinary ABers (you are ordinary, aren't you?) to carry me around the playground, not join in on the attack on me. Especially in the laughable manner you attempted it.

[Spicerack]

StickybottleSpicerack
/Got any more 'facts' you'd like to share?/

^That was my question to Stanley. Why did you c&p it?


//To be fair he has added a lot of reasoning and caveats on why he has said no.//

It was part of a TV interview. I hardly expected him to say 'I'm a megalomaniac and I want to be the richest man in the world again'. Have you seen the interview? He got flustered and bluffed his way through it. He definitely mentioned needing high profits to invest in future r&d. Read elsewhere, they haven't invested in r&d for over 10 years. They spend it on lobbying and the Governments then fund the r&d. Wouldn't be surprised if they paid for Boris's furniture.
Anyway, by what strange happenstance did World Health Policy come under the control of a non medical billionaire?

//It is not a case of a simple no just a case of no not at the moment until it is perfected but nice try at manipulating what he said Spicerack.//

Are you 'having a laugh', as they say, now, sticky? Did Bill tell you that in private. Cos he sure as hell didn't in the interview.
Do you actually believe they're testing it by injecting it into everybody in the western world and when they iron out all the problems and get it just perfect, they'll share it with the 3rd World. (it's usually done the other way around)


//Not sure why people try to demonise a man who uses his vast fortune for the advancement and betterment of mankind but everyone has an agenda I suppose//

Do you work for him?
Actually, you're not alone. He has quite a fan club on AB, strangely. I suppose controlling the media helps.
There was an unlucky boy like Bill in one of my comics. The harder he tried to get rid of his fortune, the more it grew.