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gulliver1 | 07:59 Wed 23rd Jun 2021 | News
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With Covid cases rising in Uk due to the Delta Variant. Imperial College London has predicted the trend will continue to spread, as England prepares to lift Remaing lockdown restrictions. Is Johnson smart enough to continue lockdown ?.
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//Is Johnson smart enough to continue lockdown ?.//

we dont have a lockdown so the question is flawed
When you consider how many people are in hospital at the moment, I believe about 1300 for covid, and consider how long we have been more or less open for business compared to the short opening Xmas and that produced over 30k in hospital, then the vaccine is doing its job at the moment.

The media seem to be hell bent on pointing out the odd few here and there who get covid even after having the vaccine, well I say to the media stop the nonsense, you can get flu after a vaccine too., the chances are that either one will just result in you spending a week, or even two in bed eating paracetamol.

The scientists have worked their B*** off to make this vaccine, and are still working their B**** off to be ready to tweak future vaccines. The bottom line is we've been given a lifeline, the least people can do is take it and the future ones that come along.

We have to now open up, and stop pussy footing around. All has been done what can be done, and there's still a lot ongoing to beat it or reduce it.
The more it spreads, the better for everyone as it will have the effect of herd immunity. Add to that the vaccination programme and there is nothing to worry about. Stop panicking please folks! Bojo the Clown should remove all State Control on July 19th and should have done it on June 21st, like he said he would. But expect another back flip.
There doesn't seem to be herd immunity for the common cold or flu.
There's no immunity from most ailments that's why there common, if you care to wait for all immunity you will die waiting, get on with whats on offer.
TC 12:12: bang on once more.
Teacake is spot on.
10cs the herd immunity point is wrong more spreading means more variants form. Like flu the variants mean it changes. Also immunity wears off so we need vaccinnnes
//What lockdown is that? seems pretty much back to normal around here.//

The thing is, dave, although people can get out and about, the remaining restrictions are causing huge problems for businesses, particularly in the hospitality and entertainment industries, with many venues unlikely to survive.

Meanwhile the government hypocritical, nonsensical and often plainly ridiculous restrictions continue. A few examples:

- Seventy or eighty people can gather in a large pub. But put a bride and groom in there and read out a wedding service and the numbers are restricted to 30.

- A crowd of 60,000 people are to be allowed to watch a football match, but I cannot invite more than four fully vaccinated people into my house for a drink.

- 2,500 "VIPs" are to be allowed to enter the UK without quarantine restrictions to watch that same match, and remain here for up to a week. Meanwhile I cannot spend a week in Spain (Covid infection rate about half that here) unless I undergo a rigorous testing palaver and quarantine for ten days when I return.

The people of this country are being taken for absolute fools and are being treated with utter contempt.
NJ....I agree with all of your points, however you haven't addressed the issue of what should happen on July 19th.
Should he or should he not, lift All restrictions?.
Atheist - how many people do you know? How do you know that people who feel a bit under the weather wouldn't have full blown flu had they not interacted with other people?

I've never had a cold or the flu but have spent time with people who could have passed their germs on.
That wasn't suppose to say that. My curser has a mind of its own at time.
ummmmm, not quite sure what you meant. But my point was that herd immunity without vaccination is probably not an option. 10CS seemed to suggest that it was.
Lucky you, never having had a cold or flu! :-)
//Should he or should he not, lift All restrictions?.//

They should have been lifted last Monday. (In fact many of them should not have been imposed in the first place, but that's another argument). The alternative is to see endless extensions and further restrictions because the situation is unlikely to change much in the foreseeable future. The scenario is not to "lift the restrictions and see what happens." It is to lift them and deal with whatever happens.
/////It is to lift them and deal with whatever happens.////

Thank you NJ.
12:12 well said teacake ..
Atheist - I'm not immune to getting ill though :-)
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According to Mr Cummings .Because of wrong decisions made by Boris and his team, thousands died during the first wave of Covid that could have been prevented. We have got to make sure it does not happen again with the Delta Variant.
I'd say that the fact that so many people have had both jabs, it's virtually impossible.
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Just hope you are right Zacs, but I very much doubt it.
What makes you think that?

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