Thoughts And Prayers To

[sp1814]

1. What would you suggest Lee Anderson does for a couple of hours tonight as England play their biggest football match in over fifty years?

2. If he's so offended by players taking the knee, why not just not watch the opening and tune in at the start of the match???

3. Is he a snowflake?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/08/lee-anderson-tory-mp-boycotting-england-will-follow-euro-2020-final-on-his-phone

[archibaldy]

Bit weird but up to him I suppose. If the other 25 million people didn't watch either then it would make a difference to them taking the knee going forward, but I doubt that will happen.

[sp1814]

pixie374

Eh???

[webbo3]

i've still no idea what they are hoping to achieve, since they started taking the knee black teenagers are still killing each other, a black man shot Sasha(blm) clearly the message isn't getting thru.

Will they take the knee in Qatar which has the death penalty for homosexuality and women can face 7 years in prison for having sex out of wedlock and at present over 6,500 migrants have died build the stadiums they will be playing in.

And when will they stop taking the knee, when what happens?

[sp1814]

webbo

I'm sure you know why people take the knee. It's to highlight racial injustice and was prompted by the murder of George Floyd a couple of years ago. It's also a back reference to Martin Luther King.

Taking the knee doesn't have a reference to homosexuality - that was rainbow laces.

The problem with certain people is that if you protest at one thing they think that you have to protest against everything. It's their way to ensuring that no-one makes a stand (ironically) against anything.

It's okay to smile, nod and quietly ignore those people.

[GenuineclAss]

I agree wholeheartedly with naomi24.

[webbo3]

sp1814
you ignored most of my thread.

when will they stop?

[burlyshirley]

Floyd died last year not a couple of years ago !

[pixie374]

SP, I won't patronise you, by pretending you don't understand.

[bednobs]

one presumes thyll stop when they want to

[Mozz71]

Webbo, how can SP (or anyone else) answer that question? My personal opinion is that it should stop with the new season, but when push comes to shove, it's up to those involved.

A better question woud be has it made a difference? I don't think it's made a jot of difference I'm sorry to say.

[webbo3]

Mozz71
\\Webbo, how can SP (or anyone else) answer that question? My personal opinion is that it should stop with the new season, but when push comes to shove, it's up to those involved.

A better question woud be has it made a difference? I don't think it's made a jot of difference I'm sorry to say.//

Exactly.

[ynnafymmi]

Just a bunch of overpaid posers pretending to care about BAME people.Just a passing fad.Give it a couple of seasons and it will all be forgotten about.

[sp1814]

pixie374

No please - don't worry about me feeling patronised. Better to be patronised than confused.

webbo - black teenagers are killing each other, but taking the knee is a protest again racial inequality.

And the Sasha shooting has nothing to do with taking the knee. It's just a reason for some people to demand a maintenance of the status quo.

[sp1814]

ynnafymmi

Should these footballers stick to playing football?

[Mozz71]

Just to add to my last post. Although I don't think it's done much good, that doesn't mean they should give up. Better to try and fail than to npt bother.

Ynna - //Just a bunch of overpaid posers pretending to care about BAME people.//

Still whining the same old whines I see. You haven't got the slightest idea whether they're genuine or not, it just fits your tired old rhetoric to continue to badmouth them.

[Ellipsis]

There is a lot behind taking the knee. It's an attitude thing. The attitude that has probably propelled them to the final. Playing as a team.

If they didn't take the knee, would they have the collective mindset, team spirit, camaraderie, that's taken them to the final? Probably not.

[sp1814]

Ellipsis

Agreed.

Can you imagine what certain people would’ve concluded had they done badly in the competition?

[i]“Instead if taking the knee, these overpaid virtual signallers should’ve concentrated on the game”.[i]

However - the England team have done better than any over England team for over half a century.

Ha ha ha…awesome.

[Ellipsis]

When Harry Kane takes the knee, is he supporting Marxism?

No, only a total muppet would think that (step forward Lee Anderson). He's supporting Raheem Sterling and Marcus Rashford, among many others. Fellow footballers and team members.

[GenuineclAss]

Why should anybody feel obliged to 'take the knee'?
Do you have to do this to prove that you aren't a racist these days?
Isn't "snowflake" a rather over-used, "hate-crime" word?
A friend of mine was called a "coconut" the other day, by her black hairdresser.
I think this is totally unnecessary and offensive, as is 'snowflake'.
The friend in question is black, adopted by white parents, so imagine how this made her feel?
I'm glad I wasn't there to witness what you yourself would call a 'racist attack'.
Get off your high horse!

[Peter Pedant]

am I being serious?
probably not - but this is AB so no one will notice