North Shropshie

[Gromit]

Please just post:
Tory win. Tory Hold, or Tory Loss.

We will see in the early morning.

[Gromit]

Labour’s red wall fell to become a Tory blue wall. I expect many voters there are regretting their decision.
If the LibDems consistantly win Tory seats, then the 80 seat majority can be whittled down.

There seems to be a pact operating. The LibDems didn’t fight for Batley, and Labour didn’t fight for N. Shropshire.

[ichkeria]

I have just heard John Redwood being interviewed.
Supporting the PM but at the same fine blaming the Treasury and effectively saying the governments policies are all wrong.
If Mr Spock is typical (a big if perhaps) then that really spells chaos in the ranks

[dannyk13]

Gromit, last month the Red Wall announced that it still backs Boris.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1524575/boris-johnson-conservative-party-support-mps-migrant-crisis

[ichkeria]

Last month the MPs …

Not the voters this month or any month perhaps

[Gromit]

dannyk13

It is a bit desperate when Tory MPs supporting their leader is an headline in the Daily Express.

Just to be clear, I was referring to voters in the former red wall constituencies, not the loyalty of those elected.

[gulliver1]

.........The Party's Over...........It's time to call it a Day......Bye Bye Boris...PMSL.

[Bobbisox1]

Gully he’s two years into a five year term ,still has 78 majority , now even if he’s forced to step down because of a VONC from his own back benchers , you’ll still have a Tory government, why else did N Shropshire vote Lib Dem? It was a protest vote , yes against Boris but they didn’t swing to Labour did they? if any ship has sailed ,it’s the Labour Party , it’s dead, gone , get over it !

[douglas9401]

'He was dealt a bad hand'

Aye, that's Gummidge, always somebody elses fault.

[Peter Pedant]

monf is a very long time in politics
( harold wilson, sort of)

[naomi24]

Douglas, come off it! He has been dealt a bad hand - the most unenviable of any politician in recent history. If you can't be nice at least be honest.

[gulliver1]

I don't care who won this election..... as long as the Tories did not.
I did not expect Labour to win...... You didn't expect The Cons to lose
........but they did... Didn't they.......Your Blue Bubble has burst ...
..It was a wonderfull result ... and a magnificent defeat for the Cons .

[ichkeria]

You should read some of the comments about why people switched allegiance in N Shropshire.
Quite interesting.
I would be concerned if I was a Tory politician that a lot of those people won't come back.
Even if people in places like that won't support Labour, if they are happy to see the Tories out of office come 2024 or whenever, it won't stop them, or more significantly people in seats with smaller Tory majorities, voting tactically.

[naomi24]

Gully, you're over-reacting. Take a breath and try to control yourself.

[Khandro]

Disaster for Labour with a collapse of over 70% !

[gulliver1]

This election was more than a normal By-election it was a Bye Bye election in the way of a referendum on Boris ,....in or out..... just like Brexit .
.....Lets get Boris done.........Borexit.......

[Bobbisox1]

But who will you talk about on a daily basis Gully?

[gulliver1]

Boris is no longer an Asset to the Cons .......he is a Liar-bility....

[jim360]

The loss yesterday had nothing to do with the bad hand Johnson's apparently been dealt, and everything to do with the self-inflicted wounds -- of the foolish attempt to defend Paterson in the first place, and then of the hypocrisy surrounding all the various lockdown parties, the denials and the lame excuses.

The public are fully capable of allowing any Government leeway in a time of crisis, which explains why for most of the last 18 months support for the PM and the Government has been pretty high; only in the last weeks has it shrunk, because of the straight-up blunders. Such mistakes are very likely to be more relevant in a by-election than in a General Election, though.

[gulliver1]

Khandro @10.18 ...Disaster for Tories with a collapse of over 150 years...

[douglas9401]

He got a bit wheezy for a few days, naomi, everything else was self-inflicted.