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Palace Racism
Ngozi Fulani was asked where she was originally from mmm, whats the problem there
it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
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it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
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I think that the lady was asking where her family originated from. I think that is a genuine question, maybe not the time nor the place but it is hardly a major issue.
17:51 Wed 30th Nov 2022
andy-hughes
Naomi at 13.46 - why on earth does your 'trust' matter one iota?
I think I cam state with a degree of certainty that you are not black, or in need if charity support, so the chances of your path and hers crossing is remote to say the least.
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If naomi was in need of the services Marlene provides, she would be told to take a hike.
Naomi at 13.46 - why on earth does your 'trust' matter one iota?
I think I cam state with a degree of certainty that you are not black, or in need if charity support, so the chances of your path and hers crossing is remote to say the least.
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If naomi was in need of the services Marlene provides, she would be told to take a hike.
// that it works to support black women only. Some would call that racist.//
And they would be wrong. It supports women of afro-caribbean and African heritage (So not necessarily black women but I take your point on that).
Sex is a protected characteristic. So the charity does not support men. Race is similarly a protected characteristic.
Charities are entitled to limit their objects to a particular area by law. As an example, the RNIB provides support and services to visually impaired people, the fact that it does not do so for other disabled people does not make it discriminatory.
And they would be wrong. It supports women of afro-caribbean and African heritage (So not necessarily black women but I take your point on that).
Sex is a protected characteristic. So the charity does not support men. Race is similarly a protected characteristic.
Charities are entitled to limit their objects to a particular area by law. As an example, the RNIB provides support and services to visually impaired people, the fact that it does not do so for other disabled people does not make it discriminatory.
naomi - // AH, you’re arguing that she should be believed. Belief takes trust. //
I am arguing nothing of the kind!
I am pointing out that for reasons known only to yourself, you suddenly imagine that someone you did not know from Adam three days ago suddenly needs to qualify for your 'trust', and is coming up short, and that is something that someone somewhere needs to give a flying fig over.
I think you are developing a distorted impression of your part in this sorry saga, starting with the fact that you think you have one at all.
I don't care if you believe Ms Fulani if she says the sun rose this morning - why on earth would I? Why would anyone on here.
//Belief takes trust// indeed.
Get over yourself for heaven's sake.
I am arguing nothing of the kind!
I am pointing out that for reasons known only to yourself, you suddenly imagine that someone you did not know from Adam three days ago suddenly needs to qualify for your 'trust', and is coming up short, and that is something that someone somewhere needs to give a flying fig over.
I think you are developing a distorted impression of your part in this sorry saga, starting with the fact that you think you have one at all.
I don't care if you believe Ms Fulani if she says the sun rose this morning - why on earth would I? Why would anyone on here.
//Belief takes trust// indeed.
Get over yourself for heaven's sake.
naomi - // That woman for Prime Minister, Fender. What an absolute breath of fresh air. //
Of course - you can take the word of one black woman you had never heard of until today, over the word of another black woman you had never heard of until three days ago.
Until the 'digging' starts, then you might have to adjust your view ...
Of course - you can take the word of one black woman you had never heard of until today, over the word of another black woman you had never heard of until three days ago.
Until the 'digging' starts, then you might have to adjust your view ...
webo - // I'm mystified at the rampant hostility from social media, all the news channel and the press towards an elderly white woman, but we know why that is don't we. //
We do indeed - she was insufferably rude to Her Majesty's guest, and has had the grace to apologise for it, but once the media is running, it's hard to stop.
We do indeed - she was insufferably rude to Her Majesty's guest, and has had the grace to apologise for it, but once the media is running, it's hard to stop.
I have no idea, Roy. How they apply their services to the charity's objects is a matter of administration rather than a simple statement of law.
I can only assume (and this is a personal assumption which could be wrong) that to some extent it is self selecting. I know when I was in need of help and searched it by Google, I did not select a local organisation that provided assistance to men or Muslim ladies.
I can only assume (and this is a personal assumption which could be wrong) that to some extent it is self selecting. I know when I was in need of help and searched it by Google, I did not select a local organisation that provided assistance to men or Muslim ladies.
roy - // andy-hughes
Naomi at 13.46 - why on earth does your 'trust' matter one iota?
I think I cam state with a degree of certainty that you are not black, or in need if charity support, so the chances of your path and hers crossing is remote to say the least.
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If naomi was in need of the services Marlene provides, she would be told to take a hike. //
Normally, I do admire consistency in an AB'er, but in your case, your consistency lies in entirely missing the point to which you are responding.
Never mind - you did confirm that your posts were drivel - and there's that consistency again!!
Naomi at 13.46 - why on earth does your 'trust' matter one iota?
I think I cam state with a degree of certainty that you are not black, or in need if charity support, so the chances of your path and hers crossing is remote to say the least.
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If naomi was in need of the services Marlene provides, she would be told to take a hike. //
Normally, I do admire consistency in an AB'er, but in your case, your consistency lies in entirely missing the point to which you are responding.
Never mind - you did confirm that your posts were drivel - and there's that consistency again!!
I read this article with interest today:
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In particular these paras:
"The extraordinary thing is that this subjective view of racism is in part backed by UK law. The police and the Crown Prosecution Service define a constituent part of racist hate crimes as any offence ‘which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice… based on a person’s race or perceived race’.
So, if anybody says someone’s behaviour is racist, that appears to be good enough for His Majesty’s constabulary when it comes to charging suspects. In the circumstances, it’s little wonder that Lady Hussey was found guilty without trial."
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In particular these paras:
"The extraordinary thing is that this subjective view of racism is in part backed by UK law. The police and the Crown Prosecution Service define a constituent part of racist hate crimes as any offence ‘which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice… based on a person’s race or perceived race’.
So, if anybody says someone’s behaviour is racist, that appears to be good enough for His Majesty’s constabulary when it comes to charging suspects. In the circumstances, it’s little wonder that Lady Hussey was found guilty without trial."
choux - // So, if anybody says someone’s behaviour is racist, that appears to be good enough for His Majesty’s constabulary when it comes to charging suspects. In the circumstances, it’s little wonder that Lady Hussey was found guilty without trial." //
There is no question of Lady Hussey being found 'guilty' of anything.
She behaved badly, she admitted it, she apologised, then resigned her position.
There was no 'trial', except in the fevered imaginations of some posters on social media, and some on here.
The idea that she was 'forced out' is arrant nonsense - the palace moves far more slowly than happened here. Lady Hussey apoligised and resigned within hours of the story breaking, there wasn't time for the necessary grey suits at the palace to get together and work out what should happen next - it had already happened, without their input.
There is no question of Lady Hussey being found 'guilty' of anything.
She behaved badly, she admitted it, she apologised, then resigned her position.
There was no 'trial', except in the fevered imaginations of some posters on social media, and some on here.
The idea that she was 'forced out' is arrant nonsense - the palace moves far more slowly than happened here. Lady Hussey apoligised and resigned within hours of the story breaking, there wasn't time for the necessary grey suits at the palace to get together and work out what should happen next - it had already happened, without their input.
roy - // Well, Sistah_Space is being reported to the charity commission on Monday.
That snippet is from a biracial woman who perhaps didn't meet the standard.
I don't know the lady's grievances but the charity commission are bloody useless when it comes to investigating a charity. //
And you care ... why exactly?
That snippet is from a biracial woman who perhaps didn't meet the standard.
I don't know the lady's grievances but the charity commission are bloody useless when it comes to investigating a charity. //
And you care ... why exactly?
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