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Ngozi Fulani was asked where she was originally from mmm, whats the problem there
it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
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it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
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I think that the lady was asking where her family originated from. I think that is a genuine question, maybe not the time nor the place but it is hardly a major issue.
17:51 Wed 30th Nov 2022
AH From the Courier.
Plenty has been written about the conversation between the Queen’s 83-year-old lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey and Ngozi Fulani, the 61-year-old who founded Sistah Space, the only domestic abuse charity in the UK that caters specifically for women and girls of African and Caribbean heritage.
Plenty has been written about the conversation between the Queen’s 83-year-old lady in waiting Lady Susan Hussey and Ngozi Fulani, the 61-year-old who founded Sistah Space, the only domestic abuse charity in the UK that caters specifically for women and girls of African and Caribbean heritage.
BARSEL, "This woman is someone who runs a charity for abused women of colour.
Doesn't help white women or biracial women.
If that isn't racism, I don't know what is."
The charity's charitable objects, as shown in the Charity Commission's website shows,
"(I) TO PROMOTE AND PROTECT THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND RELIEVE THE NEEDS OF WOMEN AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL ABUSE (DSA), PRIMARILY AFRICAN HERITAGE WOMEN AND GIRLS, ***IN PARTICULAR BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY*** BY (I) PROVIDING A SAFE SPACE WHERE THOSE AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL ABUSE CAN MEET (II) PROVIDING COUNSELLING, SELF-HELP GROUPS AND SUPPORT FOR SUCH PEOPLE." (emphasis added and the capitals are in the original)
Doesn't help white women or biracial women.
If that isn't racism, I don't know what is."
The charity's charitable objects, as shown in the Charity Commission's website shows,
"(I) TO PROMOTE AND PROTECT THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND RELIEVE THE NEEDS OF WOMEN AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL ABUSE (DSA), PRIMARILY AFRICAN HERITAGE WOMEN AND GIRLS, ***IN PARTICULAR BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY*** BY (I) PROVIDING A SAFE SPACE WHERE THOSE AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL ABUSE CAN MEET (II) PROVIDING COUNSELLING, SELF-HELP GROUPS AND SUPPORT FOR SUCH PEOPLE." (emphasis added and the capitals are in the original)
Barsel - // From the Mirror
As a charity that supports African and Caribbean heritage women affected by domestic and sexual abuse, Sistah Space is one of only a few surviving specialist groups that caters for Black women //
It does - but not 'exclusively' as Corby's post explains.
But the Mirror appears to have missed that bit out - can't think why.
As a charity that supports African and Caribbean heritage women affected by domestic and sexual abuse, Sistah Space is one of only a few surviving specialist groups that caters for Black women //
It does - but not 'exclusively' as Corby's post explains.
But the Mirror appears to have missed that bit out - can't think why.
Barsel, if you have been following the thread, you'll have noted Barmaid's posts several pages ago explaining how charities are allowed to restrict themselves to protected characteristics, for the very reason those characteristics are protected.
Put it this way ... A representative of Sistah Space was invited to the Palace, despite what that charity exists to do.
Put it this way ... A representative of Sistah Space was invited to the Palace, despite what that charity exists to do.
I'm going by what it says on the Charity Commission's website.
Even if it DID help only those "of colour", the 2010 Equality Act would allow that.
Section 193(4) states,
"If a charitable instrument enables the provision of benefits to persons of a class defined by reference to colour, it has effect for all purposes as if it enabled the provision of such benefits—
(a)to persons of the class which results if the reference to colour is ignored, or
(b)if the original class is defined by reference only to colour, to persons generally."
Even if it DID help only those "of colour", the 2010 Equality Act would allow that.
Section 193(4) states,
"If a charitable instrument enables the provision of benefits to persons of a class defined by reference to colour, it has effect for all purposes as if it enabled the provision of such benefits—
(a)to persons of the class which results if the reference to colour is ignored, or
(b)if the original class is defined by reference only to colour, to persons generally."
Barsel - // Andy I have been unable to find the article I read that was from a biracial woman who said she was turned away by this charity.
I know what I read and I have no reason to dispute it. //
But you are happy to assume that the only reason the woman was turned away was because she was not black, and for no other reason.
Like I said, you assume, and it's a bad habit.
I know what I read and I have no reason to dispute it. //
But you are happy to assume that the only reason the woman was turned away was because she was not black, and for no other reason.
Like I said, you assume, and it's a bad habit.
Andy, the woman was told she wouldn't be helped because she was biracial, I didn't make that up myself. Please do not assume things about me, you don't know me.
Ellipsis, I take it the event was about abuse as I know this is something the Queen consort is involved in, so the invites were going to people with an interest in this including charities.
Would they have delved into who the charities help?
I don't know. Perhaps they are not bothered about the colour of the abused women's skin.
Ellipsis, I take it the event was about abuse as I know this is something the Queen consort is involved in, so the invites were going to people with an interest in this including charities.
Would they have delved into who the charities help?
I don't know. Perhaps they are not bothered about the colour of the abused women's skin.
Corby as I said earlier, I can only go by what I read and I have read this charity is specifically for women and girls of African and Caribbean heritage.
I have not read that white women are helped, so I cannot say that they are.
My question was more, Is there a charity that is specifically for white women, and don't pretend you don't know what I mean.
I have not read that white women are helped, so I cannot say that they are.
My question was more, Is there a charity that is specifically for white women, and don't pretend you don't know what I mean.
Barsel - // Corby as I said earlier, I can only go by what I read and I have read this charity is specifically for women and girls of African and Caribbean heritage.
I have not read that white women are helped, so I cannot say that they are.
My question was more, Is there a charity that is specifically for white women, and don't pretend you don't know what I mean. //
Since the ethnic credentials for using the charity Ms Fulani represents has less than nothing to do with the original discussion - which concerns the behaviour she suffered at the hands of Lady Hussey - why are you pursuing it with such fervent intent?
I have not read that white women are helped, so I cannot say that they are.
My question was more, Is there a charity that is specifically for white women, and don't pretend you don't know what I mean. //
Since the ethnic credentials for using the charity Ms Fulani represents has less than nothing to do with the original discussion - which concerns the behaviour she suffered at the hands of Lady Hussey - why are you pursuing it with such fervent intent?
I am not in the habit of looking at the objectives of charities so I don't know if there is "a charity that is specifically for white women".
I'm also not aware of a charity that is specifically for non-white women and which excludes white women but if you know such a charity, please give its details.
I'm also not aware of a charity that is specifically for non-white women and which excludes white women but if you know such a charity, please give its details.
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