Any Thoughts Or Opinion

[nicebloke1]

3.000 hospital admissions per day of obesity related problems. More than 3 times smoking related.

[retrocop]

Get schools to reintroduce domestic science on the National curriculum. An initiative to teach kids about nutrition and healthy eating.So many adults seem to be proud 'I can't boil an egg' attitude so resort to expensive junk food which they pass on to their kids. There should be no such thing as hunger poverty. Veg is not that expensive and with knowledge and ingenuity a good wholesome soup can be rustled up for pennys.Sensible food husbandry and rationing during the last war prevented obesity and children were healthier as well. The loss of school playing fields may be something to do with unhealthy children as well.

[jackthehat]

It is difficult to argue that most obesity is not down to over-eating, although lack of movement/mobility can lead to someone with the most ordinary diet becoming overweight.

However, if we are serious about tackling the issue, funds need to be awarded to services helping those in danger of tipping over into 'obesity' and thus reducing these hospital admissions.

 

[barry1010]

I agree, JtH, but too many people don't want to change and certainly don't want the authorities interfering with their life choices.  Remember the parents passing fish and chips and Big Macs through the school railings when the schools started serving healthy meals?

Food is a coping mechanism and comfort for a lot of fat people and they handle criticism and stress by eating even more. 

I am sure these 'body positive' images that show morbidly obese people 'living their best life' doesn't help.  Nor does stretchy leisure, sports type clothing that don't get uncomfortable when you put on weight.

I don't know what the answer is.  We seem to have swung from anorexia, bulimia and the desire to be stick thin to fat is beautiful in a couple of decades

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, if someone is obese due to Prader-Willi syndrome, is that just one of the, "BS excuses"?

[barry1010]

Obesity was a rarity before WWII and rationing.  People were much more active in their daily lives, even housework and shopping was much more physical than it is today. People didn't graze all day, nor spend their evenings in front of the tv eating an extra meal just because they fancied getting a takeaway delivered.

Even 20 years ago the obese had to go to specialist shops for clothes, now they can shop at almost any high st shop.

 

[Redhelen72]

Food can become an addiction and you can't go without so those people need help

[Ellipsis]

> Hospital admissions linked to obesity have doubled in six years to more than 3,000 people a day, according to NHS figures that highlight the extent of Britain’s weight problem.

The news isn't that people are fat, it's that hospital admissions have doubled in six years!  Which is costing all of us, skinny and otherwise, a fortune ...

I will say is that the book "Ultra Processed People", that I read earlier this year, was an eye-opener ...

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[barry1010]

Corby, it is usually obvious if somebody has PWS.  They don't just look obese, there are other physical signs.  It is very rare, with around 2000 people in the UK 

[barry1010]

Ellipsis, I was obese for many years and have eaten very little ultra processed food in my life.  I just ate too much good old fashioned home cooking. 

[ToraToraTora]

12:09, the sydromes, glands etc do not change the laws of physics. A calorie is a calorie. Now people with one of the these sysdromes know they have it so sadly for them it's an extra thing to contend with but in the end you can't change the basic equation.

[jackthehat]

I think we can all agree that being obese is not natures' intended look for the human body.

As a society we need to commit to finding ways of helping people away from becoming obese. If we need to give more money to mental-health services, then let's do it; if we need to give more money to educate youngsters how to create and provide nutritious meals from scratch, then let's do it.

[Rosetta]

I agree with retro, the reintroduction of Home Economics in schools has to help, cooking and healthy eating is an essential life skill, but that wont be an easy fix in todays climate of fast, cheap food.  

In answer to Corbyloons point, things like Prader -Willi syndrome is very rare. I would guess most obesity is due to too much calorie input and not enough output in the form of exercise. Having schools nearer their communities could help kids being enouraged to walk to school., huge secondary schools sited miles away from many homes dont help kids walking to school

[Ellipsis]

> I just ate too much good old fashioned home cooking. 

Yes, Barry, there were fat people in the good old days - Billy Bunter in fiction, WG Grace in real life - but in modern times there are a lot more of them, and that explosion in numbers is correlated to the increase of ultra-processed food - we can all see that.  The question is whether correlation is matched with causation, and the research in the book shows that it is: ultra-processed food creates large-scale obesity in a way that other food does not.

[THECORBYLOON]

Regarding the ultra-processed foods, I heard a programme a while ago saying they reduce the chemicals telling the brain you're full and increase the ones saying you're hungry.

[youngmafbog]

It's a problem isnt it, and if we dont sort something out it (viae type2) will break the NHS.

I dont know what the answer is, as a fat git myself (although not quite obese) I do appreciate the difficulties. BUT making excuses, claiming attitudes havnt changed, body positive rubbish and Dr's not saying 'Your too fat' are part of the problem.  Open, honest and transparent, changing the word is just kicking the can down the road and doesnt help the person who is tubby - like me.

As the suggestion on more money for mental health I'm afraid I have to disagree.  For MOST, it is simply breaking the habit - just like the fags.  So difficult 😔.

[barry1010]

Ellipsis, I agree but think this habit of grazing, snacking and late night take away deliveries has a lot to do with it, regardless of the type of food.  

[Redhelen72]

how do you break the habit of eating youngmafbog?

 

[youngmafbog]

/how do you break the habit of eating youngmafbog?//

Ah, a smartarse.

You know exactly what I mean.  Why do you always look for a fight on here.  Not a nice person are you?

[Redhelen72]

I was debating with you as this is in news - but you wish to start an arguement with name calling?

[retrocop]

Will power would help along with self discipline.