Wetherspoons.

[gulliver1]

Tim Martin is to receive a Knighthood in the New Years Honours.For services to business And Brexit..OMG they are giving these knighthoods away.

[Deskdiary]

Is that the same Fred the Shred who was defrocked?

Once again Jno is a deliberately contrarian shocker.

Is there any POV you won't take an obtuse  position on?

[scorpiojo]

In 2020, Gulliver 

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/wetherspoons-tesco-jobs-instead-video-17970835

[gulliver1]

Last I heard ..was that  Wetherspoons are in debt for £800 million..He must be a member of the Con Club then 🤣

[jno]

Fred the Shred was defrocked because you can withdraw knighthoods. Baroness Bra won't be because a peerage is for life, not just for Christmas. Lord Jeffrey Archer, for instance.

[Togo]

//Is there any POV you won't take an obtuse  position on?//

Another "incomer" to Britain for a better safer life. Since arriving and getting feet under the table constantly denigrating us or dismissing our attributes. Often threatening to go home but never likely to. Millions just the same have arrived.   

[Ellipsis]

Dame Alison Rose, anyone?  The beloved Nigel didn't think much of her ...

The whole point is that the whole institution is, in the most delicately put way, damaged. So using behind-the-scenes methods to swell the already bursting ranks does it no favours ...

[Deskdiary]

Scorpiojo at 8.59pm - that's eminently sensible advice. 
 

The Government, wrongly, shut the economy - are you seriously suggesting a company with zero income should pay their staff to sit at home doing nothing?

[Deskdiary]

Unless you were a civil servant of course who received 100% of their salary for doing the square root of F all (mind you, how would we know any different given civil servants are generally lazy incompetents!).

[newmodarmy]

Deskdiary... maybe you misunderstood scorpiojo's post. I thought it was just telling gulliver it was old news.

[Togo]

It was indeed very good advice DD. Advice that the government and covid committees should have been implementing instead of paying them to sit on their arrises. Tesco, and other food, domestic necessities, and comestibles outlets,were desperate for staff to deliver and package goods to stranded households, whilst leisure workers and entertainment emplyees were confined to their living roms listening to the gloom announcements.  Tim Martin should have been running the show. It would have been half the price and twice as effective. 

[New Judge]

“Tim Martin has told his 40,000 staff to go and work for Tesco  amid the uncertainty  over their futures.”

I don't normally respond to your unsubstantiated statements, but feel I must this time.

As usual, completely incorrect – from somebody who continually bleats that those who voted to leave the EU fell for lies and deceit. The MEN article provided by scorpiojo provides a more measured version:

“If you’re offered a job at a supermarket, many of you will want to do that.

“If you think it’s a good idea, do it. I can completely understand it.

“If you’ve worked for us before I promise you we will give you first preference if you want to come back.”

An employer trying to support his staff when the business they work for was compulsorily and unnecessarily closed.

Last I heard ..was that  Wetherspoons are in debt for £800 million.

The Company’s current debt is about £690m. This figure represents a debt:equity ratio of about 75%(you can look that one up). The debt is down from a peak of about £950m following the pandemic. Unsurprisingly, most hospitality businesses accumulated considerable debt after they were prevented from trading on and off for the thick end of two years and in the brief periods they were allowed to trade, ridiculous conditions were imposed on the way they ran their businesses. Wetherspoons is now trading well and its turnover is now above pre-pandemic levels. 

I simply do not understand the antipathy levelled towards Mr Martin. You don't have to use Wetherspoons pubs to understand he has developed a highly successful business model. It works; it provides a service that large numbers of people want; it makes money (and would make even more if hospitalty outlets faced the same tx regime as supermarkets). 

 

[Peter Pedant]

Baroness Bra won't be because a peerage is for life, not just for Christmas.

was and not now

Most recently, the House of Lords (Expulsion and Suspension) Act 2015 enabled the House to expel or suspend a member by resolution in circumstances other than for non-attendance or being sentenced to over a year in prison (as already provided for by the House of Lords Reform Act 2014).

and it looks as tho - - - they get booted out and retain the title ( surprisingly)

[Ellipsis]

> I simply do not understand the antipathy levelled towards Mr Martin.

I have no antipathy towards Mr Martin - not unless he's been lobbying for a knighthood. What I have some antipathy towards is the honours system itself, and a business secretary pushing for a knighthood "behind the scenes".

[Deskdiary]

Non-sequitur of the year award goes to...ellipsis.

[Ellipsis]

"OMG they are giving these knighthoods away" ... that's the OP.

[jno]

oh, I hadn't spotted that, PP. But it looks as if they're still peers, they just can't be in the same house as their ... peers

[scorpiojo]

Nma, yes, I was just pointing out it was old news.

[scorpiojo]

DD

//The Government, wrongly, shut the economy - are you seriously suggesting a company with zero income should pay their staff to sit at home doing nothing?//

 

If you were asking me, the answer is no.

[gulliver1]

I suppose Tim Martin will feel very much at home when he and the other Lords are wining and dining at Westminister with

"Cheap food and drinks"...... At tax payers expense of course.

[gulliver1]

If Tim Martin is as  alleged ... £800 million in debt he will not be paying his suppliers then ?. So eventually his pubs will become (Pubs with no beer)