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I must confess . . . I've been two-timing
Music first:
My brother once told me, "I have to say �no� to Yes". I was playing a newly released vinyl recording (remember those?) of "Going for the One", at the time. Perhaps is was the naked guy on the album cover that threw him but we'll let him be the judge of that.
The title song of the album, "Going for the One�, (which coincidently happens to be, "Going for the One�), is rather intense and I would not expect it to be everyone�s cup of tea. But it is nonetheless a great song for those not thus assaulted. Unfortunately Youtube audio quality (as usual) is far to inferior to do justice to a studio recording played on a good sound system. I imagine a good Yes concert would be a, �once in a lifetime experience�, but as live music goes I�m a firm believer in, �You had to be there!�
As a rule I prefer the mellow-ish-er music and the rest of the album qualifies while retaining the cerebrally intense quality I like the album for.
As a rule, I�ve always despised jazz and was gob smacked when someone categorised on of my favorite artists music as jazz.
Steely Dan
Again I admonish you to withhold judgment until you�ve heard this on a good quality stereo. Steely Dan are studio recording perfectionist with many hidden subtleties which beg for serious listening. You may beg to differ and this is understandable under current circumstances which I only wish I could improve. Oh well . . . onward . . .
My brother once told me, "I have to say �no� to Yes". I was playing a newly released vinyl recording (remember those?) of "Going for the One", at the time. Perhaps is was the naked guy on the album cover that threw him but we'll let him be the judge of that.
The title song of the album, "Going for the One�, (which coincidently happens to be, "Going for the One�), is rather intense and I would not expect it to be everyone�s cup of tea. But it is nonetheless a great song for those not thus assaulted. Unfortunately Youtube audio quality (as usual) is far to inferior to do justice to a studio recording played on a good sound system. I imagine a good Yes concert would be a, �once in a lifetime experience�, but as live music goes I�m a firm believer in, �You had to be there!�
As a rule I prefer the mellow-ish-er music and the rest of the album qualifies while retaining the cerebrally intense quality I like the album for.
As a rule, I�ve always despised jazz and was gob smacked when someone categorised on of my favorite artists music as jazz.
Steely Dan
Again I admonish you to withhold judgment until you�ve heard this on a good quality stereo. Steely Dan are studio recording perfectionist with many hidden subtleties which beg for serious listening. You may beg to differ and this is understandable under current circumstances which I only wish I could improve. Oh well . . . onward . . .
Moody Blues, �Are You Sitting Comfortably?�
�To Our Childrens, Childrens, Children�
If you don�t like �Pink Floyd�, you are missing out my friend.
Mark Knoffler is unmatched in his category.
CSNY
Robert Plant, (not much on youtube), Little by Little, 6�s & 7�s, Big Log
David Gray
Sir Elton John
Saw Doctors, Now �I�ll Be On My Way� ~ ~ ~ <o/ �\o>
�To Our Childrens, Childrens, Children�
If you don�t like �Pink Floyd�, you are missing out my friend.
Mark Knoffler is unmatched in his category.
CSNY
Robert Plant, (not much on youtube), Little by Little, 6�s & 7�s, Big Log
David Gray
Sir Elton John
Saw Doctors, Now �I�ll Be On My Way� ~ ~ ~ <o/ �\o>
I like most of your musical tastes, Mibs,
Hmmmm ...... sitting in an armchair whilst Merlin casts his spell? Yeah man, you and me both!
Never got to see Floyd, but last year, got to see Australian Pink Floyd live - note perfect!
Not fuswsy on Saw Drs or MrGray, and never a fan of Elton, (couldn't open the link).
Ever heard of these?
I like 'em.
Hmmmm ...... sitting in an armchair whilst Merlin casts his spell? Yeah man, you and me both!
Never got to see Floyd, but last year, got to see Australian Pink Floyd live - note perfect!
Not fuswsy on Saw Drs or MrGray, and never a fan of Elton, (couldn't open the link).
Ever heard of these?
I like 'em.
Still prefer James Morrison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK9iXaiZKYc
Sorry, can't remember how to do that funny link - and can't be bothered to look it up. I might try harder tomorrow. :o)
Night. x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK9iXaiZKYc
Sorry, can't remember how to do that funny link - and can't be bothered to look it up. I might try harder tomorrow. :o)
Night. x
Who thinks, "Wish in one hand, crap in the other and see what you get.", would have been an appropriate answer to that question?
Nothing is sacred to some people.
Jesus gay? Jesus married?
Methinks we enter the land of the Guffaws and the Chortles; silliness for silliness sake.
Better having a paddle in Blackpool.
Jesus gay? Jesus married?
Methinks we enter the land of the Guffaws and the Chortles; silliness for silliness sake.
Better having a paddle in Blackpool.
And Blackpool offers a wide range of swimwear for the ladies.
Just re-read the posts about trust, and come to the conclusion, Mibs, that you suffer from a mild form of paranoia.
To judiciously weigh up the cost benefits of placing your trust in somebody seems to me to be exhausting and lacking in spontaneity.
I am by nature, very trusting, and although I have been let down on many occasions through misplacing my trust, the huge benefits of being open and trusting far outweigh the risks, and as a result, life is not as tiresome as your calculating of human nature would suggest.
Forgive me if I have misunderstood you, but, I would suggest you loosen up a little and plunge in to relationships wherever you find them. Yes, occasionally you will get your fingers burned or get ripped off, and let down, but the vast majority of people would embrace your trust and reciprocate in like fashion.
Just a thought, and no offence intended.
To judiciously weigh up the cost benefits of placing your trust in somebody seems to me to be exhausting and lacking in spontaneity.
I am by nature, very trusting, and although I have been let down on many occasions through misplacing my trust, the huge benefits of being open and trusting far outweigh the risks, and as a result, life is not as tiresome as your calculating of human nature would suggest.
Forgive me if I have misunderstood you, but, I would suggest you loosen up a little and plunge in to relationships wherever you find them. Yes, occasionally you will get your fingers burned or get ripped off, and let down, but the vast majority of people would embrace your trust and reciprocate in like fashion.
Just a thought, and no offence intended.
Theland, what's so offensive to you in the idea that Jesus may have been married? Would that be so terrible? I really want an answer to this.
I think you have something in suggesting Starman is perhaps a little paranoid, but I can't agree with your advice to him to plunge into relationships wherever he finds them. I think that would be disastrous. We have to be selective in our relationships, don't we?
(Sorry Starman, just saying it as I see it).
I think you have something in suggesting Starman is perhaps a little paranoid, but I can't agree with your advice to him to plunge into relationships wherever he finds them. I think that would be disastrous. We have to be selective in our relationships, don't we?
(Sorry Starman, just saying it as I see it).
I'm baaaaaaccck!!! Effing AB seems to have issues with Zappy's browser or something so I've had to change it round tonight but as a result I've missed out on readint the Science thread I started (can't really concentrate on stuff that requires my attention at work that isn't work) and a few other I had some pennies I wanted to contirbute.
How's one and all anyway? Incidently, I don't think I trust anyone 100%. I mean, perhaps in the ninetys but not all the way.
How's one and all anyway? Incidently, I don't think I trust anyone 100%. I mean, perhaps in the ninetys but not all the way.
Theland, I am not offended in the least. I have far to little trust to put myself in such a position. ;o)
Perhaps your spot on.
and/or
Perhaps I was so trusting as a child that in the process I found blind trust a ruinous practice.
either/way
I'm sure I'm over reacting.
Fact is I continue to invest a great deal of stock in trust at the cost of great insecurity . . . not so much in myself as in my relationships with others. I understand myself and others well enough but my struggles to be understood by others remains a constant challenge.
My only recourse is to persuade others to put themselves through what I found necessary to go through myself. On that front I have had only a smattering of success. But it's my own personal battle to win. No one is entitled to impose their will on others. Intellectual persuasion is the only justifiable and effective weapon of choice to win the minds of others. I do not seek blind obedience, nor do I demand it, from others or myself.
A vital and essential tool for healing the wounds inflicted on us by others in our vulnerable childhood is not to lash out against a reality that will not yield but to uncover the root of the cause and thereby rid the world once and for all of the effects. It is an ongoing never ending process but it is also the essence of growth and an intrinsic property of life.
Perhaps your spot on.
and/or
Perhaps I was so trusting as a child that in the process I found blind trust a ruinous practice.
either/way
I'm sure I'm over reacting.
Fact is I continue to invest a great deal of stock in trust at the cost of great insecurity . . . not so much in myself as in my relationships with others. I understand myself and others well enough but my struggles to be understood by others remains a constant challenge.
My only recourse is to persuade others to put themselves through what I found necessary to go through myself. On that front I have had only a smattering of success. But it's my own personal battle to win. No one is entitled to impose their will on others. Intellectual persuasion is the only justifiable and effective weapon of choice to win the minds of others. I do not seek blind obedience, nor do I demand it, from others or myself.
A vital and essential tool for healing the wounds inflicted on us by others in our vulnerable childhood is not to lash out against a reality that will not yield but to uncover the root of the cause and thereby rid the world once and for all of the effects. It is an ongoing never ending process but it is also the essence of growth and an intrinsic property of life.
Trust is not an inherent quality of life. Trust is a tool, instinctively used implicitly by animals and a choice for those with the capacity to reason. You have learned apparently to your satisfaction how to use this tool implicitly through the process of your upbringing. I did not.
In my case the tool I inherited was broken. I had to learn for myself not only how to use it but how to forge the tool itself only after discovering its nature. We are beings that live by virtue of making life affirming choices, whether through our upbringing or through introspection and understanding our own nature and looking out to discover the nature and rules governing the reality we live in. Reality dictates what is possible and we make our choices, if wisely then accordingly.
I must leave it at that for now as I tend to other demands.
In my case the tool I inherited was broken. I had to learn for myself not only how to use it but how to forge the tool itself only after discovering its nature. We are beings that live by virtue of making life affirming choices, whether through our upbringing or through introspection and understanding our own nature and looking out to discover the nature and rules governing the reality we live in. Reality dictates what is possible and we make our choices, if wisely then accordingly.
I must leave it at that for now as I tend to other demands.
Hello China, what the hell is Zappy's browser? Sounds like something out of Rainbow!
Starman, you say 'my struggles to be understood by others remains a constant challenge'. That's hardly surprising really, since you give little of yourself to enable others to understand you. I know where you're coming from insofar as that way in which your childhood experiences have affected you, but I have no idea whatsoever where you've landed and so you remain an enigma to me. You say you understand others well enough, but I don't think you do.
Starman, you say 'my struggles to be understood by others remains a constant challenge'. That's hardly surprising really, since you give little of yourself to enable others to understand you. I know where you're coming from insofar as that way in which your childhood experiences have affected you, but I have no idea whatsoever where you've landed and so you remain an enigma to me. You say you understand others well enough, but I don't think you do.
Looks like a few posts slipped in whilst I was cojitating.
China, So happy to see your still alive and kicking . . . and still willing to grace this thread. Of course I would be remiss to take all (if any at all) the credit for that. Anyway I appreciate your presence and offerings.
Have you been in touch with the Octagone? I'm getting a little anxious for his return so I can recant my initial statement regarding his disappearance.
China, So happy to see your still alive and kicking . . . and still willing to grace this thread. Of course I would be remiss to take all (if any at all) the credit for that. Anyway I appreciate your presence and offerings.
Have you been in touch with the Octagone? I'm getting a little anxious for his return so I can recant my initial statement regarding his disappearance.
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