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Why after 9/11 people still convert to islam?
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my posts on another thread suggested this question to me.
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here you go birdie: //There are two types of people that convert to Islam: spouses and the spiritually disillusioned / vulnerable. //
Also yes, as keyplus as rightly pointed out i will ask you what he said (although i dont really expect an answer):
// So ask him this question. First of all why a woman will go to the limits, convert, and marry a Muslim, when according to these people Islam (and Muslims) do not treat woman well. Obviously she saw something better in that person (or singer) even if we take Sandy’s example. My wife is a living example of that because she found a better singer in me. //
can you answer that birdie?
Also yes, as keyplus as rightly pointed out i will ask you what he said (although i dont really expect an answer):
// So ask him this question. First of all why a woman will go to the limits, convert, and marry a Muslim, when according to these people Islam (and Muslims) do not treat woman well. Obviously she saw something better in that person (or singer) even if we take Sandy’s example. My wife is a living example of that because she found a better singer in me. //
can you answer that birdie?
Did I say that Birdie will serve Sith with a veeeeeeery long pots? I think I did.
Naomi – You didn’t have to give me that clip as I believe you that there are 6 million people are leaving Islam every year only in Africa. I have no problem with that at all as it is Allah who knows who would be on right path after all. After all there are thousands of Christian priests distributing billions of dollars (and a copy of bible) to many in Africa. The only thing I said that I would wait and see is the change. If this is correct then there would be a very significant change in Africa in years to come. Otherwise I (and I know many others too) will discard it like any other propaganda. And finally anyone who speak Arabic is not Muslim and you know that, don’t you?
And by the way, I am sure Sith is not my puppet and I wouldn’t even want him to be. Otherwise there would be no difference between few atheists here and a couple of Muslims.
Naomi – You didn’t have to give me that clip as I believe you that there are 6 million people are leaving Islam every year only in Africa. I have no problem with that at all as it is Allah who knows who would be on right path after all. After all there are thousands of Christian priests distributing billions of dollars (and a copy of bible) to many in Africa. The only thing I said that I would wait and see is the change. If this is correct then there would be a very significant change in Africa in years to come. Otherwise I (and I know many others too) will discard it like any other propaganda. And finally anyone who speak Arabic is not Muslim and you know that, don’t you?
And by the way, I am sure Sith is not my puppet and I wouldn’t even want him to be. Otherwise there would be no difference between few atheists here and a couple of Muslims.
Keyplus, [i] And finally anyone who speak Arabic is not Muslim and you know that, don’t you? [i] Isn't the koran written in arabic. No wonder muslims are confused peeps ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran
Tamborine think keyplus meant just because someone speaks Arabic it doesn't necessarily make them a muslim for example in Lebanon the main language is Arabic but the majority of people are Christian there, yes the Koran is written in Arabic but many muslims do not speak Arabic for example in Pakistan, India etc where there are many muslims but not many speak Arabic
Keyplus, oh, dear. Bad news, eh?! Six million a year leaving Islam – and that’s only in Africa! It’s rumoured that about two million in Russia have left Islam for Christianity too! I wonder how many more deserters there are elsewhere in the world?
if Sith isn’t your puppet, why are you telling him which questions to ask – and why is he obeying you?
Still talking about Birdie, I see. Yes, you’re definitely ignoring him. He's a difficult one, isn't he Keyplus. ;o)
Tamborine & Joanne, I think what Keyplus is trying to tell us is that the men in the video are speaking Arabic and the sub-titles are not a correct translation of what is being said - hence it's propaganda. Is that right Keyplus?
He forgets other people in this world speak Arabic and since he thinks we’re all stupid, he will employ any amount of deceit to conceal the truth. He likes that word – propaganda. These figures are propaganda, 9/11 was propaganda – as was the barbaric beheading of poor Ken Bigley at the hands of Islamic maniacs. In the world according to Keyplus, people are flocking to Islam in droves and Muslims are never responsible for any atrocity – but when talking to him we must never forget that attempting to deceive, and failing miserably, is his forte.
Joanne, most western women who convert to Islam do it for love. That's what we keep trying to tell our resident Muslims, but they won’t believe us – even though their own wives are two such women.
if Sith isn’t your puppet, why are you telling him which questions to ask – and why is he obeying you?
Still talking about Birdie, I see. Yes, you’re definitely ignoring him. He's a difficult one, isn't he Keyplus. ;o)
Tamborine & Joanne, I think what Keyplus is trying to tell us is that the men in the video are speaking Arabic and the sub-titles are not a correct translation of what is being said - hence it's propaganda. Is that right Keyplus?
He forgets other people in this world speak Arabic and since he thinks we’re all stupid, he will employ any amount of deceit to conceal the truth. He likes that word – propaganda. These figures are propaganda, 9/11 was propaganda – as was the barbaric beheading of poor Ken Bigley at the hands of Islamic maniacs. In the world according to Keyplus, people are flocking to Islam in droves and Muslims are never responsible for any atrocity – but when talking to him we must never forget that attempting to deceive, and failing miserably, is his forte.
Joanne, most western women who convert to Islam do it for love. That's what we keep trying to tell our resident Muslims, but they won’t believe us – even though their own wives are two such women.
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naomi, you can support fellow atheists views, i can support my fellow muslims views, or is that against the law now?
Naomi, you are saying the exact same thing which, when i said, you said was irrational and wrong. i said that islam is a big religion. you said that does not make it correct. so let me put this to you. Even if more people have started to convert to christianity, that doesnt make islam wrong. Bigger isnt better am i right? or does that not apply now?
Naomi, you are saying the exact same thing which, when i said, you said was irrational and wrong. i said that islam is a big religion. you said that does not make it correct. so let me put this to you. Even if more people have started to convert to christianity, that doesnt make islam wrong. Bigger isnt better am i right? or does that not apply now?
i can give another reason why the numbers of islam are dwindling. lets just name a few countries. Iraq, iran, Afghanistan, Palestine, Pakistan. what do all these have in common? There all getting killed by the hands of suicide bombers and american and british soldiers. Muslims, all over the world are facing death. No wonder the numbers are decreasing. How many Christians each face things like this. not much.
Sith, //naomi, you can support fellow atheists views, i can support my fellow muslims views, or is that against the law now?//
You’re mistaken Sith. I do not necessarily support my fellow atheists views entirely – just as they do not necessarily support my views entirely. If we disagree, we say we disagree – and it happens not infrequently. That’s one of the great benefits of freedom of thought.
//Even if more people have started to convert to christianity, that doesnt make islam wrong. Bigger isnt better am i right? or does that not apply now? //
I don’t believe I ever said bigger is better – but I have said Islam is wrong – just as I’ve said Christianity is wrong.
//i can give another reason why the numbers of islam are dwindling……….Muslims, all over the world are facing death. No wonder the numbers are decreasing….//
Ah, well that must be the reason then. Wishful thinking, Sith. ;o)
You’re mistaken Sith. I do not necessarily support my fellow atheists views entirely – just as they do not necessarily support my views entirely. If we disagree, we say we disagree – and it happens not infrequently. That’s one of the great benefits of freedom of thought.
//Even if more people have started to convert to christianity, that doesnt make islam wrong. Bigger isnt better am i right? or does that not apply now? //
I don’t believe I ever said bigger is better – but I have said Islam is wrong – just as I’ve said Christianity is wrong.
//i can give another reason why the numbers of islam are dwindling……….Muslims, all over the world are facing death. No wonder the numbers are decreasing….//
Ah, well that must be the reason then. Wishful thinking, Sith. ;o)
NAOMI /////Joanne, most western women who convert to Islam do it for love. That's what we keep trying to tell our resident Muslims, but they won’t believe us////
Of course we believe you Naomi, because I know we (Muslims) are loving people and we know how to give someone love. Once again my own English wife converted to Islam will confirm that and prove you all wrong. Two more months to go and happily married for 18 years. Any way Thanks for confirming that we are loving (or loveable) people.
NAOMI ////You’re mistaken Sith. I do not necessarily support my fellow atheists views entirely////
Even I agree with that statement from Naomi, Sith. The reason is it’s fellow atheists who always follow Naomi. Because they dare not. And one more thing I better tell you Sith. Last post always has to be from Naomi because she will never agree and will never accept anything from anyone (including other atheists in that matter) that would not be according to her own limited knowledge. So in other words whenever you feel like that you have had enough, just stop posting as she never will. And this thing about how many are converting to Christianity or to Islam are not important and do not disturb anyone here. We all know ground realities unless someone wants to dig his/her head in the sand. It’s the fact that Islam is not only knocking on their doors but also on their minds and hearts. And they are worried.
Of course we believe you Naomi, because I know we (Muslims) are loving people and we know how to give someone love. Once again my own English wife converted to Islam will confirm that and prove you all wrong. Two more months to go and happily married for 18 years. Any way Thanks for confirming that we are loving (or loveable) people.
NAOMI ////You’re mistaken Sith. I do not necessarily support my fellow atheists views entirely////
Even I agree with that statement from Naomi, Sith. The reason is it’s fellow atheists who always follow Naomi. Because they dare not. And one more thing I better tell you Sith. Last post always has to be from Naomi because she will never agree and will never accept anything from anyone (including other atheists in that matter) that would not be according to her own limited knowledge. So in other words whenever you feel like that you have had enough, just stop posting as she never will. And this thing about how many are converting to Christianity or to Islam are not important and do not disturb anyone here. We all know ground realities unless someone wants to dig his/her head in the sand. It’s the fact that Islam is not only knocking on their doors but also on their minds and hearts. And they are worried.
Keyplus, //It’s the fact that Islam is not only knocking on their doors but also on their minds and hearts. And they are worried.//
Haaaaaaaaaaa! Keyplus, you are funny at times. You really are. But I do wish you'd stop talking about 'facts'. Facts require sound evidence to support them - and this from you is just another example of your wishful thinking - something else you and Sith have in common.
//Once again my own English wife converted to Islam will confirm that and prove you all wrong.//
How does that prove us all wrong? She converted to Islam because she married you – which is exactly what we’ve been saying.
Oh, and congratulations on your forthcoming 18th wedding anniversary. I’m not quite sure what that says about non-Muslims who have been married longer, but congratulations anyway.
Haaaaaaaaaaa! Keyplus, you are funny at times. You really are. But I do wish you'd stop talking about 'facts'. Facts require sound evidence to support them - and this from you is just another example of your wishful thinking - something else you and Sith have in common.
//Once again my own English wife converted to Islam will confirm that and prove you all wrong.//
How does that prove us all wrong? She converted to Islam because she married you – which is exactly what we’ve been saying.
Oh, and congratulations on your forthcoming 18th wedding anniversary. I’m not quite sure what that says about non-Muslims who have been married longer, but congratulations anyway.
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