I Do Not Believe The Myth That Adam And Eve Were The 1St Humans.

[SparklyKid]

Same goes for this bloke referred to as jesus. Is there any reliable proof of his existence apart from stories in dubious books ?

[AZardoz]

Ooh ! Easy zinger, tomus.
But the truth will just go woosh ...
His constancy is amazing though. JW ? They get extra points for abuse & they seek it out.

[sevenOP]

Theland >"Roy, do you believe in infinite regression then?"

What is this 'infinite regression' Theland ?

[Zacs-Master]

It’s generally what happens when Theland tries to wheedle his way out of proving anything that the bible says.

[naomi24]

If we assume Jesus existed and strip away the rationally unlikely (the supernatural), using simple logic to attempt to unravel the rest we find a curiously fascinating account of a man probably of some significance to the history of the Jews and to their political environment at that time. From birth to death (not by crucifixion in my opinion), his story is a jigsaw of questions, the answers to some glaringly obvious, to others frustratingly elusive.

A question to those who refuse to strip away the rationally unlikely in the Jesus story.

We know that Mohammed existed. There is no doubt whatsoever about that. His story tells us that he not only spoke several times with an angel who dictated the Koran (the direct word of Allah) to him, but during the course of one night, flew on a winged creature from Mecca to Jerusalem, and from there ascended into heaven meeting with earlier prophets and even with God himself. Why don’t you believe it?

[Theland]

Tomus, the first accounts of Jesus where written within thirty five years of his death.
If all believers are deluded, and not in a personal relationship with their Saviour, then why have they allowed themselves to be hunted down, persecuted and executed for not renouncing their faith. Millions of them.
It still goes on now, all over the Middle East, and especially in China, where the Communist Party has for years waged war on the House Churches.
Arrests, torture and death, right up to the present day, but these Christians, strong in faith, will never renounce the Lord.
Mainstream media do not report it, but there are many reenacted films on YouTube to bring home the horror that Christians endure.
But, in spite of the persecution the churches grow in number.
The Chinese Communist Party has declared war on God.
As did Stalin, Mao and Hitler. They are gone, bit Christianity grows stronger, but not in the apostate churches.

[naomi24]

No takers for my question at 09:51 Sun?

[sevenOP]

Maybe you made too many assumptions Naomi.

My question made no assumptions and was precisely targeted:

\\\\ Theland >"Roy, do you believe in infinite regression then?"

What is this 'infinite regression' Theland ? \\\\\\

[naomi24]

SevenOP, I thought my question pretty straightforward. Perhaps it's just questions...

[Theland]

Infinite regression - The idea that God was created by another, and it by another, and it by another, and so on and so forth infinitely.

[Theland]

There are many reasons I reject Islam.
Of you knew anything about Christianity you could draw a comparison, bit you don't, so you can't.

And this comes back to the question, why do you ask?
Are you a serious seller after God? No. So why?
To mock ad destroy the faith of others? Probably.
Why? To reassure yourself you will not suffer the hell promised in the bible? Maybe.

[naomi24]

I didn’t ask why you reject Islam. I asked why you refuse to believe in the ‘magic’ recorded in the Koran but nevertheless believe in the ‘magic’ recorded in the bible.

That aside, what a spiteful little man you are, Theland. And only days ago there you were telling me your bile doesn’t have the potential to cause concern to the gullible. Just as well I’m not one of them. If your religion is mocked ask yourself why … but don’t expect a rational response. That is not your forte.

[Peter Pedant]

// A surprising number of people believe in the Adam & Eve story.// and um even more dont
but hey this is AB so lets us dwell on the odd and unusual.
But hey ( or "edoo" as they say in the Bible) what does believe a myth mean

It means Adam and Eve werent the first ! Sparkly says triumphantly. No: that is the fact.
The myth is that it is an allegory that explains something in this case around 1000 BC.

and so you dont believe the adam and eve story as an explanation of the origin of man.....

well good on you ! neither do I

Jesus - - have to think about that one
and remember - if an eight y old understands what you say on AB - you're aiming too high !

[Theland]

Spiteful little man? That's a new one.
May I ask why?

[Peter Pedant]

// That aside, what a spiteful little man you are, Theland.//
um Naomi can we have less abuse please ?
a) it is tedious
b) school-girlie
c) I wont go on ...... and on

I believe in free speech, but er - hey!
I dont believe in wading thro prose such as this because it is masquerading as 'deep thought'

[Theland]

You do t li!e the message in the bible? Not my message mind you.
It's there for all to read. Even you.
Sadly, vicars gloss over this preferring to give their diminishing congregations a more appealing message.

[naomi24]

Theland, you've just told me that the bible promises that I will end up in hell. Spiteful? Yes. Spiteful.

PP, see above - and whilst your at it, take a good look at yourself.

[naomi24]

// vicars gloss over this preferring to give their diminishing congregations a more appealing message.//

And Theland is all-knowing. Right .....

[Theland]

I'm a spiteful little man because Jesus said reject God and suffer hell.
So its all down to me?

[naomi24]

Theland, what comes out of your mouth is your responsibility.

[Theland]

Then I am indeed blessed.
Christians throughout the world are being persecuted unto death for repeating the words of Jesus.
Jesus said his followers would be persecuted.
All I have suffered so far is being called a spiteful little!e man on Answer bank.
Yes, no comparison, I have got off light so far.
They called Jesus, '' A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.'' Maybe that also meant, ''spiteful little man.''